Why not to buy L&L fabrication

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06-25-2014 | 07:11 PM

#16

Gianotti

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Model: Cherokee

I went with another company i HIGHLY Recommend, if your interested shoot me a PM, I dont want certain ppl seeing what i post.

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08-07-2014 | 10:22 PM

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XJRYGUY

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From: New Jersey

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee

Engine: 4.0

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Originally Posted by wyefye

Holy ****. glad i'm not the only one. I haven't got mine yet. I ordered February 5th. All inquireies on time to ship have been "soon"; no solid dates. After seeing this thread and fitment pictures, it pisses me off even more since other threads claim the bumper is "awesome", "well made", "worth the wait".

Dude constantly pushes his honesty, his truthfulness etc. This guy is a damn liar, and i wouldn't give him a drop of **** if he was on fire - i would recommend you do the same.

I had to threaten a lawyer to get a fedex number. that was 4 days ago. i was under the impression that once you provide a tracking number, you'd ship the stupid thing. Guess not.

I need a ****ing bumper, bad. Been bumper-less about a year now.. I'm in Maryland... the police are a bit ticket happy, and my steering box moves around like a wet noodle.

Have you received your bumper or anymore response? I ordered mine March 18 and have barely gotten responses . I have now resorted to being the squeaky wheel emailing everyday. His website is no longer working and his Facebook is gone. I have a feeling I may have gotten beat.

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08-07-2014 | 10:29 PM

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jhouse93

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From: Pasadena md

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee

Hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised, homeboys a crook

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08-07-2014 | 10:32 PM

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jhouse93

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From: Pasadena md

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee

If anyone in his area needs it I saved the return address from when I received his poor excuse for a bumper

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08-11-2014 | 09:52 PM

#20

trakker

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Model: Cherokee

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Originally Posted by XJRYGUY

I have the same problem. I ordered my bumper on march 11, 2014 I have sent this guy numerous emails asking for a status on the bumper. No responses what so ever. Seems this guys is just a crook. I have seen some of the rigs on this site and others and looked really good and many were very happy. So what's up wheres my bumper. I purchased it through paypal so I hope I can dispute it. Just my unhappy rant.

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08-12-2014 | 01:28 PM

#21

94XjSport94

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Joined: Apr 2011

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From: Carrollton, GA

Year: 1994

Model: Cherokee

Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output

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Originally Posted by Disoriented Hillbilly

Modding the grill is common knowledge I feel. Did you not check the specs on the product? Bumper depth?Usually a good idea. I had to drill out a hole or two on mine too, but for $200, I wasn't whining. It's a solid product from a good dude that is trying to get bumpers on our rigs for a good price and not kill the average man with a $1000 bill. I couldn't fab my own bumper, or I would have. Sounds like u should have...

As for me, I love my L&L bumper. As do plenty of other Mo's on here.

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I loved mine. I ended up selling it on CL about 2 weeks ago because I wanted a better way to mount my winch and I wanted my next bumper to be a little less bulky. The only issues I had with the bumper was that I wish the winch tray was a little deeper to prevent from mounting it back into the grill, but I think it ended up looking better that way and that the side wings could be bent up into the fenders if you drove the corner up and into a rock. That happened on both sides to me. Could have been prevented with some bracing back to the frame tie ins, but again, just something minor I would have changed myself. For what I paid and the three or four month wait, I cant complain.

As far as business practices, I think he should have stopped the whole thing a while ago. It is clear he got overwhelmed and couldn't keep up or chose not to, but I wouldn't call him a crook. His work is far too nice to just be out to steal money from people. I will say that EVERYONE should have read the entire thread. There are several pages of posts discussing the long wait times and people *****ing about Chris. That is your fault for not reading and sending him money without any investigation.

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Originally Posted by andrewmp6

Did you order his standard bumper or the ext sides?

It doesn't look like it. That is an option to order, but it looks like the OP didn't know that. I haven't seen where the 97+ clips leave a gap at the corners like that, but it was fine on my 94.

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12-12-2014 | 12:13 AM

#22

XJRYGUY

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From: New Jersey

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee

Engine: 4.0

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Originally Posted by trakker

Anything further from this guy? I got a response back in like august but nothing now. Anyone have any kind of contact information?

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01-15-2015 | 09:41 PM

#23

trakker

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Model: Cherokee

Just checking to see if anyone got a response from this guy? I contacted paypal and they really can't do much since the transaction was so old. Not sure what to do now. I want to give him a chance to make it right but karma can be you know what.

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