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Old 12-11-2012, 08:49 AM
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You could go junkyard hunting for a 4 banger XJ. They have 4.10's stock and bolt right in.
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo
Do people ask questions like this all the time? Yes. But every situation is a little different.

I have a D35 in the rear, but my ultimate goal is to run 33 inch tires. I'm really in love with the look and stance of 33x10.50x15 and that pretty much leaves me with just two tire options but that's another issue.

I'm going to regear when I get 33s, at least 4.10 or the next step up. Right now I've got 3.07s on 31s and it sucks. I have no plans of doing any further axle mods past the regearing and a front locker. 33x10.50 isn't a common size since most of the time they're 12.5 wide, not sure what kind of difference that makes on axle strain. I'm just wondering if I should invest in strengthening my D35 when I regear so it can better handle the 33s, just leave it alone, or if I should swap in a 29-spline C8.25 or maybe a D44 if I'm blessed enough to find one. I do not have the resources or knowledge to do anything like an 8.8 swap.

I'm looking for input from people who have either run 33s on a D35 or have otherwise broken their D35. If you've just "heard stories" or wanna call it the turdy five, please don't post.

My brother has been wheeling a year on 35's with an open d35. No problems. running a narrower lighter tire will not cause any more stress on the axle.

Obviously if you were a serious rock crawler you would not be even using the stock axles or 33's.

And that is not a slam. Thats reality, and its where I am also. The d35 is not adequate for hard core use.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
My brother has been wheeling a year on 35's with an open d35. No problems. running a narrower lighter tire will not cause any more stress on the axle.

Obviously if you were a serious rock crawler you would not be even using the stock axles or 33's.

And that is not a slam. Thats reality, and its where I am also. The d35 is not adequate for hard core use.
You're not slamming me man, you're being realistic. I appreciate that because a lot of people think I need to build an amphibious tank with a Dana 60 and 38s. That's just ignoring my needs and budget lol.

No homo but you're one of the ones I like around here. You seem pretty level headed yet people love bashing you and your mods and opinions lol. I'll take your input any time
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You could go junkyard hunting for a 4 banger XJ. They have 4.10's stock and bolt right in.
Woah seriously? Do you think it would be smarter to gut them for their gears and carriers or take the entire axles?
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo
Woah seriously? Do you think it would be smarter to gut them for their gears and carriers or take the entire axles?

Thanks I appreciate it

You should get the carriers also. The d30 with a 3.55 carrier is maxed gearing wise. You need a 3.73 and up carrier to run larger gears.

So yes it would work as long as you picked up the carriers also.
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo
Woah seriously? Do you think it would be smarter to gut them for their gears and carriers or take the entire axles?
Honestly i'd get the whole axle for spare parts. Plus I believe some of them have the 8.25 rear too which would be way better than that d35 of yours.

I helped my buddy pull a dana 30 out of a 4 cyl xj and an explorer 8.8 with 4.10's and limited slip from the junkyard. So he was running a pretty stout axle set up for 33s with 4.10's and an lsd for under 500.
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I changed my mind on the 4.56s. I'm hunting for 4.10s instead since it's a DD and that RPM and speed difference will matter to me.

New question. Found a D35 with 4.10s and track lock? Guy said it was a factory locker option, I've never heard of it but I've never searched for the info. Should I avoid this if I'm trying to run 33s on the D35? I mean I'd have the spare shafts from my current axle as back up. I don't know what else about the D35 is weak...
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo
I changed my mind on the 4.56s. I'm hunting for 4.10s instead since it's a DD and that RPM and speed difference will matter to me.

New question. Found a D35 with 4.10s and track lock? Guy said it was a factory locker option, I've never heard of it but I've never searched for the info. Should I avoid this if I'm trying to run 33s on the D35? I mean I'd have the spare shafts from my current axle as back up. I don't know what else about the D35 is weak...
Do it if you like replacing axleshafts. I've destroyed 3 D35's on 33's with 4 cylinder. Yj's and Tj's.

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Do it if you like replacing axleshafts. I've destroyed 3 D35's on 33's with 4 cylinder. Yj's and Tj's.
Lol thanks I'll avoid the locker. I just want one in the front anyway.
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo
I changed my mind on the 4.56s. I'm hunting for 4.10s instead since it's a DD and that RPM and speed difference will matter to me.

New question. Found a D35 with 4.10s and track lock? Guy said it was a factory locker option, I've never heard of it but I've never searched for the info. Should I avoid this if I'm trying to run 33s on the D35? I mean I'd have the spare shafts from my current axle as back up. I don't know what else about the D35 is weak...
Good thinking there. 4.10's, 5 speed, and 33s will give you what you're looking for with a dd. Plus it'll be cheaper. Idk much about d35's, never really cared to study those turds. How much is he asking for that one with 4.10's?
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150 dollars. I could probably get him to take 100. It might be worth it just for the gears and shafts...
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Even $100 is pushing it for a d35 imo. But I wouldn't pay anything over 100 if you really want it. Make sure it's out of an xj also.
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Originally Posted by RememberTheMallamo

Lol thanks I'll avoid the locker. I just want one in the front anyway.
2 of the d35's I destroyed were with open diffs. Just a tad of wheel spin they bit and pop
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Based on your avatar it looks like you're way more hardcore than I am lol. I think I'll get by, just not sure if this locker is a good idea.
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