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Old 01-11-2011, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

yeah do that and stay as low to the ground as you can.

The axle is definitely pointing the wrong direction. From the looks of it the pinion angle needs to go down at LEAST 6 degrees, maybe more.

I couldn't tell you without getting under there with an angle finder.
I am going to get an angle finder today and measure thanks again for all the help
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
yeah do that and stay as low to the ground as you can.



The axle is definitely pointing the wrong direction. From the looks of it the pinion angle needs to go down at LEAST 6 degrees, maybe more.

I couldn't tell you without getting under there with an angle finder.
Ok if my measuring is correct then I am about 10 degrees off. My idea is to just turn the shims around.. If I took them out then I would be 4* off (where I started) then put them back in the other way then I would be 2* under and I think I remember reading that it is ok if you are within two degrees. Am I correct in saying this?
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Will a rubicon 17" wheel fit my lug spacing? Im looking at some 32" bfg mounted on rubicom wheels
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Originally Posted by Skipper
I put is a RE 3.5 lift and took the vibes out of a '99 with a Rusty'd 1" cross member for the transfer case http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...y_Code=xj_skid

So to answerr your question yes do the cross member 1" drop it is worth it, easy to do and you will have a stronger cross member too.
Yeah because having the cross member to stick down farther than the stock one already does is totally pertinent to ground clearance

Adding a 1" t-case drop removes one inch of ground clearance from how ever much lift you have. 1" can literally be the difference between clearing or failing an obstacle.

I haven't done anything other than some moderate trails and my stock cross member is dented to hell. That thing would only be more likely to smash itself on stuff.

Either leave the stock crossmember and the t-case at its stock height or get an SYE.

A t-case drop is only a band-aide and it also puts extra un-necessary stress on your engine mounts.

Originally Posted by Jeepxj1234
Ok if my measuring is correct then I am about 10 degrees off. My idea is to just turn the shims around.. If I took them out then I would be 4* off (where I started) then put them back in the other way then I would be 2* under and I think I remember reading that it is ok if you are within two degrees. Am I correct in saying this?
That would actually be darn near perfect. Under load driving down the road the pinion is going to try and point itself up further due to the torque from turning up the tires, and will do so about 1-2 degrees so driving down the road it'd be pretty much perfect.

I saw your earlier post, you're welcome. Thank you for being willing to learn. Having an open mind and open ears will get you far in life.

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Will a rubicon 17" wheel fit my lug spacing? Im looking at some 32" bfg mounted on rubicom wheels
What year are they off of? Some will work, some wont.
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I think its an 09. 5 lug is it 4.5" I need?

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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

Yeah because having the cross member to stick down farther than the stock one already does is totally pertinent to ground clearance

Adding a 1" t-case drop removes one inch of ground clearance from how ever much lift you have. 1" can literally be the difference between clearing or failing an obstacle.

I haven't done anything other than some moderate trails and my stock cross member is dented to hell. That thing would only be more likely to smash itself on stuff.

Either leave the stock crossmember and the t-case at its stock height or get an SYE.

A t-case drop is only a band-aide and it also puts extra un-necessary stress on your engine mounts.

That would actually be darn near perfect. Under load driving down the road the pinion is going to try and point itself up further due to the torque from turning up the tires, and will do so about 1-2 degrees so driving down the road it'd be pretty much perfect.

I saw your earlier post, you're welcome. Thank you for being willing to learn. Having an open mind and open ears will get you far in life.

What year are they off of? Some will work, some wont.
Alright cool I'll do it! Thanks again for everyone's help
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
Yeah because having the cross member to stick down farther than the stock one already does is totally pertinent to ground clearance

Adding a 1" t-case drop removes one inch of ground clearance from how ever much lift you have. 1" can literally be the difference between clearing or failing an obstacle.

I haven't done anything other than some moderate trails and my stock cross member is dented to hell. That thing would only be more likely to smash itself on stuff.

Either leave the stock crossmember and the t-case at its stock height or get an SYE.

A t-case drop is only a band-aide and it also puts extra un-necessary stress on your engine mounts.
ZachsXJ you got the Rusty's 1" drop crossmember all wrong dawgg.

The crossmember is a direct replacement made of 3/16 steel, with a 1 inch drop for better driveline angles without loosing any ground clearance.

My friend it sounds like you need one too!

No I am not affiliated with Rusty's and don't like all their stuff but their crossmember is a good product.
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Ok so I just picked up my 99 Cherokee XJ. Until I can get another vehicle this will be be my daily driver for the most part, will hit some trails soon. For now I am going to do a budget boost. I like the black cragars so far but I am wondering what size tires will work on this setup without any rubbing.....suggestions??
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Originally Posted by Eggering
Ok so I just picked up my 99 Cherokee XJ. Until I can get another vehicle this will be be my daily driver for the most part, will hit some trails soon. For now I am going to do a budget boost. I like the black cragars so far but I am wondering what size tires will work on this setup without any rubbing.....suggestions??
I'm guessing a 2" bb? 30x9.5's without trimming.
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Originally Posted by D_Conrad
I think its an 09. 5 lug is it 4.5" I need?
They wont work, those are a 5 on 5" bolt pattern.

Originally Posted by Skipper
ZachsXJ you got the Rusty's 1" drop crossmember all wrong dawgg.

The crossmember is a direct replacement made of 3/16 steel, with a 1 inch drop for better driveline angles without loosing any ground clearance.

My friend it sounds like you need one too!

No I am not affiliated with Rusty's and don't like all their stuff but their crossmember is a good product.
Yeah I realize that after re-reading it. It still hangs down as much as stock...thats no bueno for me. Plus I highly doubt that would stand up to long arms. I'd rather build my own for cheaper that gives me a flat belly, transfer case protection and a belly skid.

I've heard way too many things about Rusty's products failing at the most inopportune times...so there's not a chance I'd buy one of those.
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Im thinking about what lift I want, 93 XJ

I wanna do rocks and mud and everything in between. Im looking for 5-6.5 inches of lift and was wondering what you guys reccomend.

Also I was wondering if yall ever delt with rock road outfitters and old man emu
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They have an old man emu 5 inch lift on there and they diss long arms pretty bad saying they ride terrible on the highway, I was looking at long arm kits but im having second thoughts because if you read on that web site they make it seem like long arms are for trail queens only, and I commute on the highway every day.

I just want peoples input on long arm kits and hope that you actually read there stuff on the website under the trailblazer kits. Pretty interesting stuff on there.
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Im thinking about what lift I want, 93 XJ

I wanna do rocks and mud and everything in between. Im looking for 5-6.5 inches of lift and was wondering what you guys reccomend.

Also I was wondering if yall ever delt with rock road outfitters and old man emu
http://http://rocky-road.com/xjsus.html
They have an old man emu 5 inch lift on there and they diss long arms pretty bad saying they ride terrible on the highway, I was looking at long arm kits but im having second thoughts because if you read on that web site they make it seem like long arms are for trail queens only, and I commute on the highway every day.

I just want peoples input on long arm kits and hope that you actually read there stuff on the website under the trailblazer kits. Pretty interesting stuff on there.
Long arms handle way better than short arms without drop brackets, while gaining significant amounts of ground clearance over any short-arm set-up.

That being said, I've heard a lot of not so great things about rocky road. I'm in the process of helping a buddy install their Dana 30 High-Steer kit. While the kit is well designed and built, the instructions are lacking and the kit doesn't fit quite right.

Old Man Emu is ARB's brand of suspension parts, very high-quality stuff and well worth the money. I'm running OME rear leaf packs and they've been fully inverted at least 10 times, yet I haven't lost so much as a 1/4" in lift height.

If you know anything about leaf packs, most of the time inverting them multiple times = death of the leaf pack.
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Hey everyone I have a buddy with a 98 like mine he wants to do a lift but moneys kind of tight he has 4 kids. One day we were looking through my copy of the Jan. issue of JP Mag. and found an article about "Junkyard Lifts" basically you build a spring and get front coils out of other trucks. I pretty much now how to do it my quistion is about part of the spring pack it said to use "MJ Big Ton Leaf Springs" now I know that an MJ is a Commanchi now I did some research and found that the "Big Ton" was a heavy duty payload package capabal of handeling some in the range of 2200 lbs. Now my question is does anyone now how hard it is to find a "Big Ton" and are they common in junkyards.

For more info on the Junkyard lift Google: JP Magzine Junkyard lift

Any feedback would appreiated thanks and happy wheeling.
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Originally Posted by jcwclm
I'm guessing a 2" bb? 30x9.5's without trimming.
Yes, i think the teraflex bb kit(they state a 1.5to2 inch lift)....what about a rim size width 15x7 or 15x8?


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