PunisherXJ

Ok so I have a 91 xj that I will be putting a 4.5 x-series lift from RC:
http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xj_4x.html

Combined with a 2" spacer/shackle kit.

What I need to know is what other parts should I need to make it all work before I install the lift. All I have is what is in the 4.5 lift and the 2" boost lift. Thanks guys

mr white

You'll need an sye and Driveshaft. Possibly longer control arms, those arms say up to 6in lift. It will ride like **** even if they do work for 6.5in. Also probably shackle relocation brackets. If the leaves come with rubber bushings still get polyurethane bushings before you even put that **** in, else you'll be replacing those rubber bushings in about a year depending on how much you drive it offroad.

Ib4 RC hater krew.

zumer715

Quick question, I want the re 3.5" super ride lift but I hear that piecing together lifts is cheaper so i was wondering what components ill need other that front coils, leaf packs, adj track bar, and shocks. Thanks

stitch702

So I'm a newb who attempted my lift install today. Discovered that literally all my bolts are rusted hard. I started pb blasting all my bolts to let it soak for a couple days. I may need to torch A few of them as well however some bolts like the upper shock mount are close to the gas tank. Would you guys recommend using a torch up there with no problem?

JerrytheJeep

How much lift are you going for? Control arms and extended brake lines need to be added to the list.

These will have to be determined after you lift it:
an sye or transfer case drop
Bumpstop
Fenders trimmed to match your tire size

Fender trimming and bumpstopping go hand in hand. You don't have to run as big of bumpstops if you trim, but if you prefer not to trim, you can run larger bumpstops to keep your tires from hitting your fenders. If you don't trim and run bigger bumpstops, your suspension won't articulate as much as it would if you did trim and run a shorter (by comparison) bumpstop.

dmetcalf808

After doing much research through as many forums as I could handle, I would like to get direct feedback on the best project order. I have tried to consolidate my ideas onto one post to get all my questions answered, so I apologize for the length of this post. I currently have a nearly stock 96’ Cherokee sport. As it is easy to dream and over shoot, I may need some more experienced input considering I can afford to “go big.” Since I love this jeep already, I would like to use it daily, but do not want to get carried away.
As is, my thoughts before upgrading tires, you would want to:
Suspension lift – Thinking about 4.5,” would like to run 31”s or 33" without cutting fenders, or at least putting the extended fenders after cutting. I was looking at Rubicon express since someone made the point that they have been at it for a while and have them nailed down pretty good. I want to have something nice for on road use, which seems to lead me to the long arm. I’m also trying to factor in is the added weight from aftermarket bumpers, winch, roof rack, and rocker bars. Does this need to be considered prior to deciding the lift to go with? Also, I’m having a hard time picturing the proper ratio for lift to tires, so I would like to include this common jeep photo as a goal for my jeeps lift and tire ratio, so If you know the specifics I would love to know them.

As I researched lifts, the individual kits were specific to axles. So, I got the impression I should upgrade axles (have Dana 30 front, Dana 35 back) prior to ordering a lift kit and new tires. The ideal seems find a wrecked TJ and scavenge the stock Dana 44 front and rear since they have lockers already, and are beefy enough to upgrade tires for size and torque upgrades. Since that doesn’t seem to be sure fire for finding those, I was wondering about good alternatives for front (?) and rears (ford 8.8). The ideal scenario would be to find axles and be able to do any mods prior to installing them or the lift kit. Any suggestions on locations to purchase axles, whether salvage or company built would be great.

The tires and wheels are currently stock. I would need to know which axles I plan to use so I can match the lug pattern for new rims. I have noticed that the 15in rim is not very popular for new tires in stores, and the 16 or 17 in tire are taking over. Is there a difference for performance that is driving this change? How does the added weight of the rim vs. the reduced weight of the tire affect the overall characteristics of the ride? I had done some research and found that I could do a package setup from tirerack.com for 31x10.5x15r BFG KM2 M/T on some KMC XD series rims. If anyone knows good reason not to do a package like this, I would appreciate the feedback.

These are the first major hurdles in the jeep project, and I don’t want to get off to the wrong start. I appreciate the time taken to read and input on my project,
I thank you all. (Reminder, this is the photo Im including to try to emulate for lift and tires)

Parsnip

The picture you were looking at seems to be a 4.5 inch lift, and running 33 or 35s. As far as long arm go, for both on road and off road they are much better than short arms, because they allow more articulation then the short arms and I'm not sure about why they offer better on road, but if I had to guess I think it has something to do with the actual length of the arm and severity of the angle increase or decrease. As for axles this Ford 8.8 it's really a wonderful swap both me and my friend have done it and they can handle really any tire size below 40 especially if you go with a super 8 .8 kit. For your front axle you could go with any Dana 44 that came out of a Chrysler such as a TJ JK or even the old Wagoneers because they will already be at Length, and if you want to keep your rim pattern the same front and rear you can either do a wheel spacer on the back since the 8.8 is narrower or you could take a Dana 44 and still use Dana 30 hubs

JerrytheJeep

Jk dana 44 is basically a 30 in a new housing. You can go quite simple and strong with a 29 spline 8.25 with chromos for 33s. Or search the junkyards for a late 80's xj with a dana 44 and go chromos with that. Those should last you a good while as a weekend warrior. Plus they're direct bolt on. Your 30 should be fine, but consider getting some stronger shafts and u-joints. (I think yours already has the 760 u-joints but I can't recall). If there's one thing you should definitely go big with, its shocks. Having correct suspension geometry will only improve your ride and articulation so much, you'll need a good set of shocks to go the extra mile and be smooth on the road. A lot of people here love and reccommend bilstein 5100's.

Speaking of articulation, you'll probably want to go with a smaller leaf pack, and a longer shackle. It will ride better. Also look into shackle relocators so you can get the most out of your leafs (I hear they're pretty easy to make too if you've got the time and resources)

Tom95YJ

You new to do some research on the JK D30 vs a regular D30

JerrytheJeep

Will do, I've heard a LOT of people saying its basically a d30.

94XjSport94

Are you you thinking of the TJ 44 front?

JerrytheJeep

Oops, thought I saw jk. Tj axles are another story haha

vandelden21

Being that he has a 96 shouldn't he have a hp 30? Throw some shafts into it and i always thought they were almost as strong as the 44 front???

I ask because I am planning to utilize mine instead of swapping the front out.

NewKindOfClown

'96 is a HP30, and it has the upgraded ujoints that began in '95.

vandelden21

Thank you.