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Old 02-04-2014, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EvstaG
No shims until you do a SYE.

Interesting that the 4WD makes it worse, a lift with stock control arms actually helps pinion angle in the front (worsens caster, of course). Maybe your front DS is unbalanced, as in a weight fell off.. If you are actually at 3" I wouldn't say that an SYE is necessary; however, every situation is different, and and SYE certainly is never a bad idea.
The lift came with control arms. Ill have to get the SYE and see if it fixes the problem. I didnt know drive shafts needed to be balanced. Learn something new every day. haha.
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The lift came with control arms. Ill have to get the SYE and see if it fixes the problem. I didnt know drive shafts needed to be balanced. Learn something new every day. haha.
I'm pretty sure they don't... At least somebody told me that they're too short to really need balancing...

But that's just hearsay.
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I'm pretty sure they don't... At least somebody told me that they're too short to really need balancing...

But that's just hearsay.
IIRC they do. Something that spins that fast can be imperfectly made. Having them balanced helps that. I could be wrong but to my understanding they do.
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Originally Posted by tssguy123

I'm pretty sure they don't... At least somebody told me that they're too short to really need balancing...

But that's just hearsay.
They do.
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Oh yes they do!!
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

They do.
Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
Oh yes they do!!
Yep. I had to get a stock rear driveshaft after doing my 4x4 conversion because the one I had was too long. Long story short it has a dent/ bend in it and at about 60-70 mph that sucker is humming away and shaking things up. It's a harmonic kind of thing, same thing happens when it's " normally" out of balance.
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ok so currently i have a rc 4.5 lift on my jeep and i did a 8.8 swap and made a bastard pack for the rear and now the back sits higher.so i want to go a little higher and level it out. i ordered a shackle relocation bracket for thew rear and and panning on ordering 8" springs for the front and a drop pitman arm. i just want to know if i can run the 8" springs with in the front with stock uppers and the rc lowers that came with the original lift? i am ordering a iro longarm upgrade in a couple weeks when my tax return get here so it wont be ran long i just want to know if its possible for the meantime. thanks
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ok so currently i have a rc 4.5 lift on my jeep and i did a 8.8 swap and made a bastard pack for the rear and now the back sits higher.so i want to go a little higher and level it out. i ordered a shackle relocation bracket for thew rear and and panning on ordering 8" springs for the front and a drop pitman arm. i just want to know if i can run the 8" springs with in the front with stock uppers and the rc lowers that came with the original lift? i am ordering a iro longarm upgrade in a couple weeks when my tax return get here so it wont be ran long i just want to know if its possible for the meantime. thanks

No. Absolutely not.
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Originally Posted by Ballard
ok so currently i have a rc 4.5 lift on my jeep and i did a 8.8 swap and made a bastard pack for the rear and now the back sits higher.so i want to go a little higher and level it out. i ordered a shackle relocation bracket for thew rear and and panning on ordering 8" springs for the front and a drop pitman arm. i just want to know if i can run the 8" springs with in the front with stock uppers and the rc lowers that came with the original lift? i am ordering a iro longarm upgrade in a couple weeks when my tax return get here so it wont be ran long i just want to know if its possible for the meantime. thanks
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I'm going from 3" to 4.5 and am wondering if I'll need extended U bolts for 4.5 leafs. My current u bolts work with my 3" AAL but I'm not sure they'll reach with 4.5 leafs. Any opinions?
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No. Absolutely not.
Uh yea what he said lol

8" of lift, why so high. Never understood high cog builds but thats just me
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Originally Posted by ktmriderxjdriver
I'm going from 3" to 4.5 and am wondering if I'll need extended U bolts for 4.5 leafs. My current u bolts work with my 3" AAL but I'm not sure they'll reach with 4.5 leafs. Any opinions?
I used stock size u bolts for 6 leafs and it had Lot of thread left i will admit. Its advised not to re use u bolts in case you stretched the threads out
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Originally Posted by ktmriderxjdriver
I'm going from 3" to 4.5 and am wondering if I'll need extended U bolts for 4.5 leafs. My current u bolts work with my 3" AAL but I'm not sure they'll reach with 4.5 leafs. Any opinions?

Assuming you got new u bolts with your AAL kit, yes. Although u bolts are only supposed to be torqued once or twice at the most since they stretch, so they should be replaced.
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Originally Posted by ktmriderxjdriver
I'm going from 3" to 4.5 and am wondering if I'll need extended U bolts for 4.5 leafs. My current u bolts work with my 3" AAL but I'm not sure they'll reach with 4.5 leafs. Any opinions?
You should be okay. Best way is to find out how thick the 4.5" pack is, then measure your's. If you have 4.5" spring thickness minus stock+AAL thickness worth of thread left, they will work. If they are the stock original u-bolts, I would get new ones anyways, and upgrade to 1/2" (7/16" is stock).

I brought my stock u-bolts to a spring shop, and said "get me these in 1/2", 1.25" longer." $30 later I was out the door. About half the price of what some brand names want for u-bolts (OME, Skyjacker, etc), and that was before shipping to Canada for me.
To summarize, going local for these might be a good option.
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Originally Posted by EvstaG

You should be okay. Best way is to find out how thick the 4.5" pack is, then measure your's. If you have 4.5" spring thickness minus stock+AAL thickness worth of thread left, they will work. If they are the stock original u-bolts, I would get new ones anyways, and upgrade to 1/2" (7/16" is stock).

I brought my stock u-bolts to a spring shop, and said "get me these in 1/2", 1.25" longer." $30 later I was out the door. About half the price of what some brand names want for u-bolts (OME, Skyjacker, etc), and that was before shipping to Canada for me.
To summarize, going local for these might be a good option.
If i go with 1/2" will i need to drill out the plates?


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