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08-07-2014, 12:13 PM
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Out of sheer boredom I decided to go ahead and install my Spartan locker in the new carrier and install the new ring gear.
Everything went together fine except the little retainer pin you drive in to hold the center pin in. It went in all the way except right to the end then just quit. Mushroomed the end a little bit but filed around the edges to remove any burs.
Will it be okay like this? The pin made it all the way through the center pin and into the other side so it is not going anywhere. Just want to make sure I can leave it like this or do I need to get a Dremel tool to clean it up some. Hard to get in that little space.
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Everything went together fine except the little retainer pin you drive in to hold the center pin in. It went in all the way except right to the end then just quit. Mushroomed the end a little bit but filed around the edges to remove any burs.
Will it be okay like this? The pin made it all the way through the center pin and into the other side so it is not going anywhere. Just want to make sure I can leave it like this or do I need to get a Dremel tool to clean it up some. Hard to get in that little space.
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Sounds like it didn't line up perfectly on the other side. I'd drive it back out and clean up the head a little where it mushroomed out.
You don't want the roll pin to back out and hit the ring gear.
08-07-2014, 01:22 PM
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It is weird how it was going in fine then got right to the last 1/8" and decided to quit.
08-07-2014, 01:32 PM
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Just make sure the roll pin didnt try to spin and is off center of where it needs to be. Dont want the roll pin to chew up the gears or lock the axle up.
08-07-2014, 02:12 PM
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At this point I may have to drill it out because I went back out in the garage and tried to tap it back out and it won't budge. I did manage to use the flat end of a punch and drive it the rest of the way in. I still don't like it though.
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08-07-2014, 02:19 PM
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The hole is roughly a 1/4". I have a 1/4-20 tap. What is the best way to do this without damaging the carrier or messing up the hole?
08-07-2014, 03:26 PM
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It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap.
That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.
I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.
I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
08-07-2014, 04:20 PM
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It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap.
That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.
I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed.
I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
It will. Happened at Harlan to a guy in our group. Ate up his pinion.
08-07-2014, 04:57 PM
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It measures 7/32" which is under a 1/4 and I think about the size hole you need for a 1/4 tap. That pin is in there pretty tight. I don't feel like it is going to back out and let the main large pin come out. But then again there will be a lot of forces in motion once it is installed. I can say this, that new main large center pin that came with the Spartan locker was tight going in. It took some pretty good wackin' to drive it it. So even if that securing pin was to back out far enough to let the main large center pin possibly move, I think it would be very hard for it to walk out of the hole as tight as it is in there.
08-07-2014, 05:23 PM
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A #7 bit is just slightly bigger than a 13/64" bit. I took a quick look at my SAE tap drill chart and didn't see anything that used a 1/4" hole. I can't seem to find my metric one to see if there was a metric tap that would be a close fit
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1/4-28 tap = 7/32 hole
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Next question, has anyone done this to their carrier and what is the best way to do this? Do I need to disassemble everything back down to a bare carrier then tap?
I already thread locked and torqued down the ring gear bolts. Don't want to have to take that off. I think that locker would be a mother getting back out too since those springs keep that thing in there tight.
I already thread locked and torqued down the ring gear bolts. Don't want to have to take that off. I think that locker would be a mother getting back out too since those springs keep that thing in there tight.
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Next question, has anyone done this to their carrier and what is the best way to do this? Do I need to disassemble everything back down to a bare carrier then tap? I already thread locked and torqued down the ring gear bolts. Don't want to have to take that off. I think that locker would be a mother getting back out too since those springs keep that thing in there tight.
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Hey guys,
I'm just getting into upgrading my cherokee and looking at buying a 4.5'' RE lift and putting 33's on it. I've never wheeled, but this is my first truck and want to get into it. I'm probably not going to be an every weekender (IDK who is), but I'm in college and would like to go maybe like once a month. Otherwise this will be my dd. Would you recommend the 3'' lift with 31's or a 4.5'' inch with 33's? I'm currently looking at the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs 33X12.50X15's. I saw a couple people were able to pick them up for around 155 bucks a tire. If anyone still has the receipt can they post a picture? I'd love to see if a place will price match it for me. The cheapest I've been able to find online was about 180 a tire after mail rebates etc.
I'm just getting into upgrading my cherokee and looking at buying a 4.5'' RE lift and putting 33's on it. I've never wheeled, but this is my first truck and want to get into it. I'm probably not going to be an every weekender (IDK who is), but I'm in college and would like to go maybe like once a month. Otherwise this will be my dd. Would you recommend the 3'' lift with 31's or a 4.5'' inch with 33's? I'm currently looking at the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs 33X12.50X15's. I saw a couple people were able to pick them up for around 155 bucks a tire. If anyone still has the receipt can they post a picture? I'd love to see if a place will price match it for me. The cheapest I've been able to find online was about 180 a tire after mail rebates etc.