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I'd go to serious off-road's website for everything. He's got good products, alway around on here, very helpful, and best of all he loves jeeps.
4WD beats him by $150 and has free shipping
http://www.4wd.com/prodDetail.aspx?p...t=38&ptID=3533
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
4WD beats him by $150 and has free shipping
http://www.4wd.com/prodDetail.aspx?p...&ptID=3533
Nice. Well done sir
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
4WD beats him by $150 and has free shipping http://www.4wd.com/prodDetail.aspx?p...t=38&ptID=3533
do they have as good of customer service? I've just always heard how good serious off-road is so I don't know.
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I'd go to serious off-road's website for everything. He's got good products, alway around on here, very helpful, and best of all he loves jeeps.
He was permanently banned from here for being an ***, breaking rules, and pissing off moderators. I had a terrible experience with him in trying to buy some parts. Took months of unanswered emails, PMs, and phone calls (during which he was active on here selling himself) to get some basic Omix-Ada seals and bearings.
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He was permanently banned from here for being an ***, breaking rules, and pissing off moderators. I had a terrible experience with him in trying to buy some parts. Took months of unanswered emails, PMs, and phone calls (during which he was active on here selling himself) to get some basic Omix-Ada seals and bearings.
didn't know that. I'm sorry. Always seemed nice on here but I guess never judge a book by its cover.
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You're sorry? For what? lol. A few very vocal people had a good experience with him. I have no idea if we dealt with separate people lol.

But yes he did get banned.
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You're sorry? For what? lol. A few very vocal people had a good experience with him. I have no idea if we dealt with separate people lol. But yes he did get banned.
I'm sorry you had a poor experience with him. Sucks getting screwed by people.
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Ok, so I'm leaning toward the RE 4.5" Super Flex with monotube shocks and full rear leaf springs. I'm going to give my local 4Xguy a shot at matching the price I see online, and I'm likely to get the RC SYE and CV drive shaft, unless he thinks they are incompatable with the RE stuff for some reason, or otherwise of poor quality. I may add a steering damper if it seems prudent.

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Ok, so I'm leaning toward the RE 4.5" Super Flex with monotube shocks and full rear leaf springs. I'm going to give my local 4Xguy a shot at matching the price I see online, and I'm likely to get the RC SYE and CV drive shaft, unless he thinks they are incompatable with the RE stuff for some reason, or otherwise of poor quality. I may add a steering damper if it seems prudent. Constructive criticism welcome.
I got an advance adapters sye cheaper at porc, and for how much that driveshaft is and how bad of quality the rest of the rc stuff I've seen is I'd get one from elsewhere. Tom woods is a very popular shop never heard bad about him from anyone. But as I always say your money your jeep, spend it and build it how you want.
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Seems reasonable. Don't worry about brand compatibility, the SYE and DS have nothing to do with the suspension, just your Jeep. Also, depending on what parts your XJ has, you may be able to refurbish a front DS from another XJ for much less than a new custom one. Most of them are the same stuff. I imagine RC is selling Omix-Ada (aka Rugged Ridge) SYEs, I think they're the cheapest around.

Steering damper comes in handy, the design of these is sketchy. The damper has nothing to do with death wobble, rather it absorbs shocks taken from bumps, reducing bump-steer and wear on the steering box. If yours is OE consider replacing it. The new taller angles will make the bump steer a little worse.
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Originally Posted by ElMartillo
Ok, so I'm leaning toward the RE 4.5" Super Flex with monotube shocks and full rear leaf springs. I'm going to give my local 4Xguy a shot at matching the price I see online, and I'm likely to get the RC SYE and CV drive shaft, unless he thinks they are incompatable with the RE stuff for some reason, or otherwise of poor quality. I may add a steering damper if it seems prudent.

Constructive criticism welcome.
I like that you're trying to support local business. If he'll at least come close and has a decent reputation, I'd probably go that route. It's a matter of values, though, and yours may not be the same as mine. No harm there.

It's a great kit, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it. It will take some time for the rear springs to settle, and some people recommend adding a couple hundred pounds of whatever into the cargo area to assist.

The SYE should be fine, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy from the cheapest company that has a real website.

The steering damper is a hot button issue. It can help make your driving experience more comfortable. But if your steering is set up correctly, you don't need one. Tons of people ditch it altogether when they upgrade to aftermarket steering assemblies. What the damper (or "steering stabilizer" as it's usually called here) will do is hide the symptoms of bump steer and, in extreme cases, death wobble.

These symptoms are common with a freshly lifted vehicle because the new geometry will more quickly reveal worn out parts due to the vehicle's age and use. It can be a pain to track these things down, but if they're bad after the lift, they were bad before the lift and you just didn't realize it.

STEERING STABILIZERS DO NOT FIX DEATH WOBBLE

No matter how many internet-certified mechanics disagree, science still hadn't bowed to their beliefs. If you do get DW or bump steer, we can help you track it down. Don't blindly throw parts at the problem or think a new (or two new) damper(s) will resolve your issue.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
It's a great kit, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it. It will take some time for the rear springs to settle, and some people recommend adding a couple hundred pounds of whatever into the cargo area to assist.
Next on the list, after the lift install, is bumpers. Rear tire carrier and front winch. This should help "settle" things.

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
These symptoms are common with a freshly lifted vehicle because the new geometry will more quickly reveal worn out parts due to the vehicle's age and use. It can be a pain to track these things down, but if they're bad after the lift, they were bad before the lift and you just didn't realize it.
We'll see, but this wagon has 100K miles on it, mostly driven through the streets of Trabuco Canyon to Beverly hills as a commuter. Likely not a lot of heavy wear, but we'll see!
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We'll be here, buddy. Let us know what you decide, and post up some pictures of the install
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We'll be here, buddy. Let us know what you decide, and post up some pictures of the install
Why are you being so nice? You're scaring me.
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Why are you being so nice? You're scaring me.
New member asking legitimate questions. Also, I've been bored all day


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