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Okay so I've shopped around and the cheapest I have found the Zone 3" full pack kit was $510.99 shipped. I ran the kit by my mom and she seemed okay with the price. So now that I will be getting the kit that you guys suggested, how about the wheel size? Will a 15x10 rim with 3.75 bs with 33x12.50's cause me to do a huge amount of trimming? I will be bump stopping as well. I'd really like to go with 33's because I like the look of a log cog rig, but also because I want to get as much ground clearance as I can out of it on a 3" lift.
You'll want 15x8 wheels for 12.5" wide tires, and you should be shooting for 3.5-3.75" BS if you aren't worried about tire coverage. You can run 4" BS, but you'll lose a little more turning radius. You will either need new Lower Control Arms or a ton of trimming off the backs of your fenders. I cut mine back almost to the doors before they stopped rubbing with that setup.
I have a chance to get steal on a brand new set of 33x12.50x15 super swampers. Only downfall I see is that they are the bias swamper. Anyone had a set of these on a daily driver? If so what mileage did you get out of them and how do they ride?
I have a chance to get steal on a brand new set of 33x12.50x15 super swampers. Only downfall I see is that they are the bias swamper. Anyone had a set of these on a daily driver? If so what mileage did you get out of them and how do they ride?
Minimal mileage. And bias tires get flat spots on them when they're parked. They're hard to beat offroad, but don't expect much out of them on pavement.
I posted this on the tech forum and got some conflicting answers. Perhaps this section can put me in the right direction. My new extended 2" shackles are at 90 degrees and my ride is not good and I assume now the degree should be 45-50. My pictures will show that I can turn my shackle around and gain some clearance because of the plate or/and cut the fender bolt down. The other option is a relocation bracket suggestion. I have 3" over coils and 3"over bilstein on front and new (supposed to be stock leafs) but they raised the back a lot but they are not broken in yet either. I also have 3" over bilsteins in the back. This is 2001 xj 2wd and on road only use with 31" duratracs. and 15" rims. The height the shackles added is about perfect. What is my best option with the shackle at this point to get my ride quality back and not make a mistake? Thank you Sandyman
I used shackle relocators and I don't think I gained anything after fixing my angle. You can kinda see the old shackle angle in this picture Gives a lot better flex too That's about all I had before without the rear sway bar. After, maybe could've gone farther. No tire was off the ground.
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Check out the difference in our spring arch. Maybe because mine are new? Shackle doesn't look like it in the pic, but it is hanging 90 degrees. .
I keep a good bit of weight in the back, tools, sub, strap box, 2 amps, and a lot of other odds and ends. Also, I tow all the time with my jeep and my springs were pretty old by the time I did the relocators.(year or two I think)
Check out the difference in our spring arch. Maybe because mine are new? Shackle doesn't look like it in the pic, but it is hanging 90 degrees.
By themselves, vertical shackles will not make the ride horrible (vertical has benefits too), provided that the rest of the system is functioning smoothly.
In the picture I do not see anti-friction pads between leafs. Binding will occur if not in place. Shackle bolts too tight will also cause binding.
To test movement and smoothness of system, remove shocks from axle side, push down and up on bumper to cycle suspension. Should be able to move it considerably.
For relocation brackets can use the 'no-lift' type, this will replace the stock shackle box with an adjustable one. Requires cutting and drilling.
My mechanic is installing this for me. Seems the new housing has a different mount position for the vacuum lines. Stock housing has a side connection. New housing connects perpendicular, from the rear. Because of this he says he needs to extend the vacuum lines. Anyone with experience on this? I would have thought there'd be enough slack in the lines somewhere, as there is no mention of modifying them for install.
Stock on right, with vacuum fitting attached to the side, new housing on left:
By themselves, vertical shackles will not make the ride horrible (vertical has benefits too), provided that the rest of the system is functioning smoothly.
In the picture I do not see anti-friction pads between leafs. Binding will occur if not in place. Shackle bolts too tight will also cause binding.
To test movement and smoothness of system, remove shocks from axle side, push down and up on bumper to cycle suspension. Should be able to move it considerably.
For relocation brackets can use the 'no-lift' type, this will replace the stock shackle box with an adjustable one. Requires cutting and drilling.
My other post started with less torque on the shackles. No one agreed. I have the front eye and upper rear at FSM spec of 115 ft lbs. Lower is at 85lbs. I have never heard of anti friction pads. But I will use them if I need them. My ride got stiffer after the shackles. That was the last thing I did and it was to level the rear to the front. Would you suggest I loosen the torque and see what happens? If it is a better ride then go to the pads?
I have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport with a 3" lift. Currently running 31 x 10.50 on stock wheels. Will a 255 / 75 17 work with this configuration with out cutting the body?
255-75r17s are actually about 32 inches tall. With that being said, I would think they would fit without too much trimming, if any.
09-21-2015, 02:17 PM
You can kinda see the old shackle angle in this picture 
Gives a lot better flex too 
That's about all I had before without the rear sway bar. 
After, maybe could've gone farther. No tire was off the ground.
You can kinda see the old shackle angle in this picture 
Gives a lot better flex too 
That's about all I had before without the rear sway bar. 
After, maybe could've gone farther. No tire was off the ground.
