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05-22-2016, 12:31 PM
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Using the hole for stock height does not allow enough movement for full travel of a 3.5" lift leaf pack. It will work, just limits downward travel.
05-22-2016, 12:42 PM
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05-22-2016, 03:32 PM
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If you have time can you possibly post up a pic?
Thanks!
Not sure if I'd be willing to Bend that part out maybe it's a lot stronger than I think.....
Thanks!
Not sure if I'd be willing to Bend that part out maybe it's a lot stronger than I think.....
05-22-2016, 05:43 PM
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05-22-2016, 07:06 PM
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I have 31" BFG AT's too and they're alright on stock gears, but like SatiricalHen did, I went with alloy wheels. It was kinda crappy at first, but after upgraded injectors, a bored tb, and the SYE, I gained some of that loss back. I plan on going to 33's at some point, so I'll re-gear then.
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05-22-2016, 08:32 PM
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I have 31" BFG AT's too and they're alright on stock gears, but like SatiricalHen did, I went with alloy wheels. It was kinda crappy at first, but after upgraded injectors, a bored tb, and the SYE, I gained some of that loss back. I plan on going to 33's at some point, so I'll re-gear then.
05-22-2016, 09:11 PM
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Bored TB is one of my favorite upgrades so far. I went 62mm. I can't speak for any other sizes, but it brought back some pep and made it harder to lay of the skinny pedal. Exhaust is next on the list but I'm not sure if I want to keep it at 2.25" or bump up to 2.5". Not looking for it to be super rumbly, just a good tone.
05-22-2016, 10:09 PM
No, I don't lick fish.
It's not so much "settling" as it is "doing what needs to be done for now and saving in the meantime for what I really want"
There are a couple of reasons:
A) Money. Sole-provider of a household with wife and 3 kids doesn't afford much extra. I do what works, and trust me... my current setup works MUCH better than the stock shackles. Are there setups out there that work better? Sure. There's always a bigger fish. I.E. your setup will never flex as well as a custom triangulated 4-link.... so why not go with that? Answer... 'cause you're happy with your setup and it works, right? OH! And you probably don't have a couple G's to drop on that setup... I'm assuming.
B) The amount of articulation in the rear of my Jeep is pretty well matched with the front. If I added the relo brackets, I'd have more in the back than in the front... and of that, I'm not a fan.
C) I absolutely HATE the look of that setup. No offense to you man, absolutely none, so please don't take it that way. Eventually, I'm going to get shackle relo brackets, but they're going to be no-lift brackets. I hate the way the ones look that just bolt into the current location of the shackle buckets. To me, it looks about as good as body lift. Not mild body lift either... we're talkin' 4" of body lift on a mid-90's chevy k1500... yeah... frame hangin' waaaay down below the body, and big gaps between the frame and bed in the wheel well.
In the meantime though, just going with a set of extended shackles offered a TREMENDOUS improvement over stock... and they were all of 25 bucks at the autoparts store.
So, while your setup is a valid option I'm simply offering readers here another one.
There are a couple of reasons:
A) Money. Sole-provider of a household with wife and 3 kids doesn't afford much extra. I do what works, and trust me... my current setup works MUCH better than the stock shackles. Are there setups out there that work better? Sure. There's always a bigger fish. I.E. your setup will never flex as well as a custom triangulated 4-link.... so why not go with that? Answer... 'cause you're happy with your setup and it works, right? OH! And you probably don't have a couple G's to drop on that setup... I'm assuming.
B) The amount of articulation in the rear of my Jeep is pretty well matched with the front. If I added the relo brackets, I'd have more in the back than in the front... and of that, I'm not a fan.
C) I absolutely HATE the look of that setup. No offense to you man, absolutely none, so please don't take it that way. Eventually, I'm going to get shackle relo brackets, but they're going to be no-lift brackets. I hate the way the ones look that just bolt into the current location of the shackle buckets. To me, it looks about as good as body lift. Not mild body lift either... we're talkin' 4" of body lift on a mid-90's chevy k1500... yeah... frame hangin' waaaay down below the body, and big gaps between the frame and bed in the wheel well.
In the meantime though, just going with a set of extended shackles offered a TREMENDOUS improvement over stock... and they were all of 25 bucks at the autoparts store.
So, while your setup is a valid option I'm simply offering readers here another one.
05-22-2016, 10:47 PM
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It's not so much "settling" as it is "doing what needs to be done for now and saving in the meantime for what I really want" There are a couple of reasons: A) Money. Sole-provider of a household with wife and 3 kids doesn't afford much extra. I do what works, and trust me... my current setup works MUCH better than the stock shackles. Are there setups out there that work better? Sure. There's always a bigger fish. I.E. your setup will never flex as well as a custom triangulated 4-link.... so why not go with that? Answer... 'cause you're happy with your setup and it works, right? OH! And you probably don't have a couple G's to drop on that setup... I'm assuming. B) The amount of articulation in the rear of my Jeep is pretty well matched with the front. If I added the relo brackets, I'd have more in the back than in the front... and of that, I'm not a fan. C) I absolutely HATE the look of that setup. No offense to you man, absolutely none, so please don't take it that way. Eventually, I'm going to get shackle relo brackets, but they're going to be no-lift brackets. I hate the way the ones look that just bolt into the current location of the shackle buckets. To me, it looks about as good as body lift. Not mild body lift either... we're talkin' 4" of body lift on a mid-90's chevy k1500... yeah... frame hangin' waaaay down below the body, and big gaps between the frame and bed in the wheel well. In the meantime though, just going with a set of extended shackles offered a TREMENDOUS improvement over stock... and they were all of 25 bucks at the autoparts store. So, while your setup is a valid option I'm simply offering readers here another one.
05-22-2016, 10:54 PM
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well I'm very very offended. Just kidding I think it looks awful too. It would be awesome to have no lift relocation brackets, but at the time I was all about not doing anything I couldn't take off and go back to stock but now I'm at the point of screw it. My rear flexes way more than the front, but I can't afford to make the front flex more than it does now. Also the whole why settle thing was mostly a joke, there's a lot worse out there and I would know.
These are actually what I'm planning on going with once I finally do go that route. The bolt to the frame rail, through the floor, AND through the rear crossbrace. Just seems like a rock-solid setup to me. Check 'em out...
http://www.polyperformance.com/Syner...Hanger-Bracket
05-23-2016, 08:05 AM
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lol... ah ok. My bad dude, I didn't catch the joking inflection in your tone.
These are actually what I'm planning on going with once I finally do go that route. The bolt to the frame rail, through the floor, AND through the rear crossbrace. Just seems like a rock-solid setup to me. Check 'em out...
http://www.polyperformance.com/Syner...Hanger-Bracket
These are actually what I'm planning on going with once I finally do go that route. The bolt to the frame rail, through the floor, AND through the rear crossbrace. Just seems like a rock-solid setup to me. Check 'em out...
http://www.polyperformance.com/Syner...Hanger-Bracket
05-23-2016, 10:31 AM
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