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Originally Posted by PNWjeeper
Is there any particular reason people don't keep the stock rims?

I like my gold spokes and don't see any reason to change them aside from the fact that finding tires to fit 15" rims could be a little difficult.
Not sure why you'd have a hard time finding tires for 15" rims. There is still a large market for them. Especially in the off-road world. Don't buy in to that lie.

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Backspacing. Larger tires rub on the inside of the wheel well and suspension. Also, not everyone likes the stock rims - I'm not a huge fan of the Eccos. I really like turbines. Will be ordering spacer/adapters to push them out a tad.
PLUS, the stock wheels have a 7" width as opposed to most aftermarkets which have an 8"... unless you go with the Ravines or TJ Canyons (neither of which came on XJs from the factory). The wheel width isn't a huge deal though. Tire places will tell you it is, but it actually assists in keeping the bead on the wheel when offroading and airing down.

Backspacing is the biggest thing though. That problem can be solved using spacers, just make sure you get GOOD spacers. Not cheap junk that doesn't fit correctly and breaks. There's a lot riding on your wheels.

Originally Posted by william mirra
Has anyone taken s-10 blazer mags ands adapted them to the cherokee? I am wondering if the studs clear the mags properly. I don't want to buy and have to return the adapters. 4.5-4.75 if the jeep studs and lug nuts hit the blazer mags.
my steel wheels are ruuuusty.
Are you talking about steel wheels or aluminum? The OEM aluminum wheels are not machined flat on the mounting surface. They have little "windows" in between the lug holes that should allow you to clear any stud "stick out" that may occur. The steel wheels have a little bit of "curvature" but not as much. In reality though, just measure your studs and get adapters that are as thick as your studs are long.
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
Not sure why you'd have a hard time finding tires for 15" rims. There is still a large market for them. Especially in the off-road world. Don't buy in to that lie.



PLUS, the stock wheels have a 7" width as opposed to most aftermarkets which have an 8"... unless you go with the Ravines or TJ Canyons (neither of which came on XJs from the factory). The wheel width isn't a huge deal though. Tire places will tell you it is, but it actually assists in keeping the bead on the wheel when offroading and airing down.

Backspacing is the biggest thing though. That problem can be solved using spacers, just make sure you get GOOD spacers. Not cheap junk that doesn't fit correctly and breaks. There's a lot riding on your wheels.



Are you talking about steel wheels or aluminum? The OEM aluminum wheels are not machined flat on the mounting surface. They have little "windows" in between the lug holes that should allow you to clear any stud "stick out" that may occur. The steel wheels have a little bit of "curvature" but not as much. In reality though, just measure your studs and get adapters that are as thick as your studs are long.

15" tires are becoming more difficult to find, and rightly so.

Nitto only makes one tire for the 15" wheel for example, it's a mud tire.

15s are becoming obsolete.
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Originally Posted by Jeep Driver
15" tires are becoming more difficult to find, and rightly so.

Nitto only makes one tire for the 15" wheel for example, it's a mud tire.

15s are becoming obsolete.
Not trying to start an argument here, but I'm going to have to disagree based on the following very quick google search for 15" tire sizes...

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...=1&RunFlat=All

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No, I'm not arguing. I'm also not saying that there is not tires to choose from.

However, there are not as plentiful as they used to be and some of the major tire makers are not producing full lines of 15s.

I need to replace the tires on my wifes XJ, I have boiled down what is available to the General Tire 31s...........it's really my only choice based on quality, AT tread, price.
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Originally Posted by Jeep Driver
No, I'm not arguing. I'm also not saying that there is not tires to choose from.

However, there are not as plentiful as they used to be and some of the major tire makers are not producing full lines of 15s.

I need to replace the tires on my wifes XJ, I have boiled down what is available to the General Tire 31s...........it's really my only choice based on quality, AT tread, price.
The market for 16,17,18+ is larger, yes. But it's not "difficult" to find tires for 15" wheels, and they're not becoming "obsolete" when you can still buy 15" wheels aplenty as well.

Perhaps if you originally chose your words poorly, I understand, but the facts just don't line up with your original retort.
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I would venture to say there has not been a vehicle produced in the last 7 years or so that run 15 wheels, few if any.


It's a generational thing.

Just like you wont find a USED 71 Camaro SS for sale now.......they don't exist.

XJs have already begun to dry up, along with many of the last of the 80s/90s vehicles, as they do, so will the tire choices.

As you get older, you see the trends very clearly.
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Originally Posted by Jeep Driver
No, I'm not arguing. I'm also not saying that there is not tires to choose from. However, there are not as plentiful as they used to be and some of the major tire makers are not producing full lines of 15s. I need to replace the tires on my wifes XJ, I have boiled down what is available to the General Tire 31s...........it's really my only choice based on quality, AT tread, price.
I love my grabber at2's. Good road manners, good off road performance, aggressive looks, and minimal wear after a year. When the time comes I'll probably buy these for my truck too.
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Originally Posted by Jeep Driver
I would venture to say there has not been a vehicle produced in the last 7 years or so that run 15 wheels, few if any.


It's a generational thing.

Just like you wont find a USED 71 Camaro SS for sale now.......they don't exist.

XJs have already begun to dry up, along with many of the last of the 80s/90s vehicles, as they do, so will the tire choices.

As you get older, you see the trends very clearly.
https://www.google.com/search?q=2009...tra+wheel+size

That's just one example

https://www.google.com/search?q=1971...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I see a lot of them for sale.
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Originally Posted by Basslicks

Goddamn, I see no point in continuing any discussion with you.

Yes, there are $20K Camaros for sale, sure, but not USED cars, as I stated.
They are no longer available on the used car market.
None of the cars I drove as a young man are available as used cars, they are all collector cars.

The only straight axle 4X that I know of that is being produced in the US is the Wrangler.

Once this crop of XJs are destroyed.........that's it, it's over.
There will be nothing for the next generation.

People like you think this **** will be around forever, it will not.

I've been looking for 97 up complete doors for my MJ for 2.5 years......still looking.
Parts for 88 2.5 XJ/MJs are becoming none-existent.



The 15" wheel example you gave.........09 Altima........stripped down version....6.5" wheel.
As I said.........7 years or so.


5 years from now you won't find much support for 15" wheels/tires........mark my words.
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Originally Posted by Jeep Driver

Goddamn, I see no point in continuing any discussion with you.

Yes, there are $20K Camaros for sale, sure, but not USED cars, as I stated.
They are no longer available on the used car market.
None of the cars I drove as a young man are available as used cars, they are all collector cars.

The only straight axle 4X that I know of that is being produced in the US is the Wrangler.

Once this crop of XJs are destroyed.........that's it, it's over.
There will be nothing for the next generation.

People like you think this **** will be around forever, it will not.

I've been looking for 97 up complete doors for my MJ for 2.5 years......still looking.
Parts for 88 2.5 XJ/MJs are becoming none-existent.

The 15" wheel example you gave.........09 Altima........stripped down version....6.5" wheel.
As I said.........7 years or so.

5 years from now you won't find much support for 15" wheels/tires........mark my words.
You don't know me or anything about me. So when you make statements like that, it makes you sound like a moron.

Seriously man, go cool off. You're not making your point, certainly not in a way that makes any sense. And the thread is now getting clogged up with a garbage argument.

Move on.
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What keeps the coil springs from unseating during full droop? I had my Cherokee on the lift yesterday and the tops of the springs came away from their seats. I may have had the sway bar disconnected at that point. Thanks
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What keeps the coil springs from unseating during full droop? I had my Cherokee on the lift yesterday and the tops of the springs came away from their seats. I may have had the sway bar disconnected at that point. Thanks
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I really hope 15" tires are around for a while as we buy a lot of them every year for the business trailers (4) and my race car hauler not so often.


I run 15" tires on both of the cars my wife's 67 Mustang a 15x12" & 15x3 1/2" on mine it has 15x10.5's a class requirement with a 15x3 1/2" front. Both slicks and drag radials are very costly way more than 4x4 tires depending on compound.


Before I replied I called a friend who owns a large tire shop and asked him about sales of 15" tires and he replied that 16's topped the list of sales lots of trucks in this area then 17's for cars with 15's still in 3rd place. Still a lot of older cars on the road down here in this area.
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Alright, I got one for you guys, and I know it's been covered a bit, but trying to find some more recent experiences.

How do you guys like balancing beads or bb's or airsoft bb's for balancing your tires? I have 31's that have worn like ****, both front and rear because the sticky weights kept falling off. I'm thinking of getting a new set of 31's or maybe even just jumping to 33's like I plan to in the future, and I want them to wear and drive nice. My jeep is my DD and does plenty of highway driving. Thoughts and experiences appreciated!
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Alright, I got one for you guys, and I know it's been covered a bit, but trying to find some more recent experiences.

How do you guys like balancing beads or bb's or airsoft bb's for balancing your tires? I have 31's that have worn like ****, both front and rear because the sticky weights kept falling off. I'm thinking of getting a new set of 31's or maybe even just jumping to 33's like I plan to in the future, and I want them to wear and drive nice. My jeep is my DD and does plenty of highway driving. Thoughts and experiences appreciated!
You'll get mixed opinions. I loved them in my 35s. Put those wheels and tires on my buddy's rig, and he hated them


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