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Old 11-10-2016, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
If you're looking to be at 4.5" with leafs, relocation brackets, and longer shackles, you'll want a smaller lift leaf spring if you're going with the standard HD shackle relocations. Those add some lift as well, so maybe like a 3 or 3.5" leaf spring, relocation brackets and maybe like 1" lift shackles.
Looking to be at 5.5-6 total in the rear, going with RE 5.5 front coils.

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Relocation brackets are a very good investment. As springs settle, or you replace them or the shackles, you will always have a good ride as you can adjust the angle to accommodate for change.
Good point, appreciate the help. Ill probably weld some up, im sure I have enough drops/scrap to make some.
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New here I just bought a 96 XJ and am looking for a good 6.5" short arm lift. unfortunately this being my first JEEP I'm still a noob and learning. some kits I have found online look more complete then others.

can anyone point me in a direction of what site will sell me the kit complete.

I know going that high will need a slip yoke eliminator and driveshaft. my budget is 2,500-3k.
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Originally Posted by Beatngyou27
New here I just bought a 96 XJ and am looking for a good 6.5" short arm lift. unfortunately this being my first JEEP I'm still a noob and learning. some kits I have found online look more complete then others.

can anyone point me in a direction of what site will sell me the kit complete.

I know going that high will need a slip yoke eliminator and driveshaft. my budget is 2,500-3k.
There is no such thing as a 'good' short arm lift of 6+ inches. Will need long arms. That much lift will likely make jeep unstable on highway and will drastically change the center of gravity. Best to keep lift under 4.5". Do not need a big lift to fit 33" tires.
Also going to need an upgraded steering system and re-gearing of axles.
Here are two companies to get you started. Will need more money too.
http://www.full-traction.com/detail....=4&t=1&p=839#n
https://www.claytonoffroad.com/xj_lo...01_cherokee_xj
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Going to go for the Zone 3" kit - http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...erokee/j21-j22

Anyone know why it doesn't come with control arms or sway bar brackets like the Rough Country 3"?

http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-sus...-kit-630x.html

Can I use the stock control arms with the Zone kit? Should I?
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
Going to go for the Zone 3" kit - http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...erokee/j21-j22

Anyone know why it doesn't come with control arms or sway bar brackets like the Rough Country 3"?

http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-sus...-kit-630x.html

Can I use the stock control arms with the Zone kit? Should I?
Different companies always have variances in their package deals. Zone is a product of BDS, a very high quality company and while I don't have personal experience with either, with rough country theres plenty of general complaints. I think mostly a harsh ride and spring length issues. BUT, RC has also made some changes to their designs so newer stuff might be just fine. FWIW, I'd go with zone.
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
Different companies always have variances in their package deals. Zone is a product of BDS, a very high quality company and while I don't have personal experience with either, with rough country theres plenty of general complaints. I think mostly a harsh ride and spring length issues. BUT, RC has also made some changes to their designs so newer stuff might be just fine. FWIW, I'd go with zone.
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Any opinion on LCAs? RC sells them standalone, could just add to my Zone 3" kit: http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-fix...arms-1071.html
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Originally Posted by Beatngyou27
New here I just bought a 96 XJ and am looking for a good 6.5" short arm lift. unfortunately this being my first JEEP I'm still a noob and learning. some kits I have found online look more complete then others.

can anyone point me in a direction of what site will sell me the kit complete.

I know going that high will need a slip yoke eliminator and driveshaft. my budget is 2,500-3k.
Just to make sure nothing goes unsaid, 6.5" short arm, no matter how quality the components and installation, is going to ride really rough. Your control arm angle is going to be very steep! That said, whats your budget? Thats the important thing now. A lot goes into lifting anything more than 3.5".
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
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Any opinion on LCAs? RC sells them standalone, could just add to my Zone 3" kit: http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-fix...arms-1071.html
I know theres a difference in price, but for a reason! Check these out as a comparison.
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
I know theres a difference in price, but for a reason! Check these out as a comparison.
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those are coil springs
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
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those are coil springs
haha, sorry, had a few pages open.. RE LCA's
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If $2500-3,000 is your total for going to a 6 1/2" lift you better wait a lot longer. You will have more money than that in all the other items needed not including the lift, it's the cheapest part. You will have more than that invested in tires/wheels/gears/lockers.
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
haha, sorry, had a few pages open.. RE LCA's
what's the difference? i'll be on a light trail at best so i reckon i don't need the extra investment.

i'm wondering what the reason is for doing LCAs at all with a 3 inch lift from Zone.
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
what's the difference? i'll be on a light trail at best so i reckon i don't need the extra investment.

i'm wondering what the reason is for doing LCAs at all with a 3 inch lift from Zone.
To fully get all angles correct so you have a nice ride. Without longer lower control arms when you lift, your wheels may not be centered.
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
To fully get all angles correct so you have a nice ride. Without longer lower control arms when you lift, your wheels may not be centered.
Ah, that's the info I was looking for

i would quite like them to be centered. will probably pick these up. thanks man.
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
what's the difference? i'll be on a light trail at best so i reckon i don't need the extra investment.

i'm wondering what the reason is for doing LCAs at all with a 3 inch lift from Zone.
It can help center the axle in the fender well. Two major benefits of front LCA's is that it will provide proper caster after the lift. Makes a huge difference in handling. Also when off-road the front end is under a lot of stress. The upgraded arms are much stronger and usually flex better.


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