Spydie

Ah man, I ment to add "give me reasons to prove her wrong" was out running around and missed that. I'm looking at a set of BFG AT's or mt's but she hates the price

Martlor13

Ok tell her this. Tires are the only part of your vehicle that touches the ground. You want quality. Also, if you buyou a good set, like bfg at, then you won't have to buyv some for a long while. If you go cheaper, those tires usually wear faster so you'll need some sooner, and it'll raise the price. So in the long run its cheaper to buy quality tires.

NewKindOfClown

I've been shopping for 37s, so this may not be relevant... But I've found much better pricing on Cooper's S/T Maxx (AT tire) and STT Pro (MT tire) than I've found for many other name brand manufacturers. For a set of five 37s, the Coopers are as much as 45% cheaper than certain other options.

Also price shop between sellers. Shopping for 37" S/T Maxx tires, I found Merchants Tire to be several hundred dollars cheaper than the same set of tires from online retailers. Don't forget to check local and online prices.

As someone else said, cheap (billig; not preiswert) tires generally wear faster and are less reliable. Of all the things you can cheap out on, that's the wrong part to choose.

Basslicks

Not irrelevant at all. I've been noticing the same trend on my search for 33's as well... other than Generals which debatably have poor quality, and the MT Deegans (which I'm actually considering).

Martlor13

Deegan arent a really good tire, from reviews I have heard. Been quite a bit of complaints at the tire shop i work at. They look nice, but customers have been saying they just don't grab well. 2 people have swapped them to differrent tires after less than 1000 miles.

Basslicks

Good to know. I've been hearing the opposite, but then again, that's from people in florida so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

What terrains are your customers running on?

Martlor13

Our shop is in central new mexico. But the terrain in the area is very diverse. But the 1 person that returned the tires ran up trails in the mountains with lots of rock. One guy had them on for 3 weeks, with a wheeling trip to Arizona. He swapped them when he returned. He said they did terrible in the sand and desert terrain. Those who didn't swap say they aren't good in the mud. But they aren't a full fledged mud tire so understanable.

so bass, I can't tell you what they are good in haha. Considering who makes them I thought they would be a pretty good tire. Reviews online by some magazines say they are good, but I don't trust them too much.

what I can say is this. These customers were comparing the Deegan to previous tires they hsd. Bfg and coopers were the main 2, with toyo thrown in once. Maybe the Deegan are a good tire, but they aren't on the level of others.

Basslicks

Very very good to know. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about tire reviews from magazines and websites. Especially since they don't make as much money on subscriptions as they used to. Thanks for the info :thumsbup:

Boomhauer

I admit I have not read all 1,000+ pages of this thread, maybe my question has been covered but here goes.

I am seeing that to run 31x10.5x15 tires a minimum of 3" lift is necessary. Is that on factory wheels? I'm looking at running 15x8 wheels, and would like to widen the stance a bit, just not sure how little backspace I can run with the above package before rubbing starts again?

Mine is a 1992 XJ Laredo 4dr. 4.0/auto, currently bone stock in every way w/factory fender flares.

Also, looking to use the xj as my hunting and fishing rig, towing an aluminum boat at times. In factory form the rear end sags too much with the tongue weight. Not unsafe, just unsightly. Though I'm not necessarily looking to make it ride like a haywagon, any suggestions on manufacturers or components to negate this when the lift is installed?

Thanks,
Jay

Martlor13

You can run those on factory wheels. You will need to adjust your steering stops though. Or you can get rims with 3.75 backspace. In both cases bumpstops are a great idea as well.

As far as your other question, you don't want it to sag at all when towing? Get stiffer shocks and HD leaf springs.

Boomhauer

I don't want it to sag as bad as it does now with the trailer hooked up, which is pretty bad. But also don't want a lot of rake in it when not towing the boat. Thinking about just throwing some air shocks on it once the lift is on, or researching some helper air bags for it if it sags on the new springs.

As for the wheel question, I understand I can run the tire on a factory wheel. I will be swapping to aftermarket 15x8 steel wheels and have options on backspace. The question is, how little backspace can I run with the 31x10.5 on a 3" lift before the tire starts hitting stuff? Widening the stance is the objective.

Martlor13

How heavy is your boat and trailer? It may just sag because your suspension is worn out.

3.75 is the recommended backspace but you need to bumpstop as well.

salad

3.75" on a wider rim will completely avoid rubbing on the inside. I ran 31x10.5x15 on factory rims with 3" lift and the only contact I had was the lower control arms. I had aftermarket tubular arms so the tread did not bite, but I really should have adjusted the steering stops. Factory backspacing is 5.75". Honestly, 4.5" would be sufficient for that size tire.

And yes you can use a stiffer leaf spring to help support the weight. A couple hundred pounds tongue shouldn't impact it significantly.

NewKindOfClown

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NewKindOfClown

5.25, I believe