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Old 03-31-2017, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan94
So he was right about that. And wrong in saying I couldn't. I figured he was wrong I just didn't want to say that to him, they sale kits to lift them so I figured you could. It was probably his way of keeping me from doing something he didn't think was a good idea, him helping me with my jeep kinda turned into building the jeep he sees, not my vision. And for due dilagence asked probably the most asinine question ever posted here. And for the transfer drop kit he said it'd fix one thing but change the angle of where it goes into the motor and bind, is that true or no? Thank you for answering these dumb questions.
The transfer case drop doesn't change the angle of where the transfer case or transmission goes into the motor, those are all bolted together as one unit from the engine back. What it does do is alter the angle of the whole assembly, so the engine is tilted up at the front the same angle the transfer case is tilted down at the rear. There won't be any binding.

When your grandfather was talking about the control arms, he might have been thinking of how a Lexus or Toyota use upper and lower control arms in the independent front suspension, and if thinking about older Jeeps or something like the YJ that uses front leafs on a straight axle.
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Maybe. Each Jeep is different. T-case drop is a bandaid
I thought I read somewhere that a front driveshaft from a zj can work in the rear with a lift. Any truth to that?
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
He's right about the TC drop. They're very common because they're a cheaper fix than doing an SYE. The problem with a TC drop is it increases wear on the motor mounts and moves the bottom of the fan awfully close to the radiator
final question, he said that I wouldn't want an SYE for a daily driver. He made it sound like it's exclusively in rockcrawling and other low speed activities, would an SYE affect the driveability at freeway speeds?
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Originally Posted by Ethan94
final question, he said that I wouldn't want an SYE for a daily driver. He made it sound like it's exclusively in rockcrawling and other low speed activities, would an SYE affect the driveability at freeway speeds?
The simple answer is no.

An SYE is a Slip Yoke Eliminator. It converts the slip style output shaft to a fixed yoke. It's simply a different method, and production cars are built both ways. In fact, since Jeep introduced the Rubicon trim level on the Wrangler in 2003, the offroad package has included an SYE on the list of upgrades.
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Originally Posted by Ethan94
So he was right about that. And wrong in saying I couldn't. I figured he was wrong I just didn't want to say that to him, they sale kits to lift them so I figured you could. It was probably his way of keeping me from doing something he didn't think was a good idea, him helping me with my jeep kinda turned into building the jeep he sees, not my vision. And for due dilagence asked probably the most asinine question ever posted here. And for the transfer drop kit he said it'd fix one thing but change the angle of where it goes into the motor and bind, is that true or no? Thank you for answering these dumb questions.
I could definitely see an old hand used to working on cars saying stuff like that if he wasn't aware of the XJ aftermarket. Lifts are difficult to impossible on a lot of vehicles because of suspension geometry.

Originally Posted by nardey11
I thought I read somewhere that a front driveshaft from a zj can work in the rear with a lift. Any truth to that?
A front ZJ shaft an alternative when an XJ front shaft is too short, like if you have a manual transmission, or go up like 12" or something. They bolt up to an SYE.

Originally Posted by Ethan94
final question, he said that I wouldn't want an SYE for a daily driver. He made it sound like it's exclusively in rockcrawling and other low speed activities, would an SYE affect the driveability at freeway speeds?
To add to what NewKindOfClown wrote - we call them "Slip Yoke Eliminators", but a better name is a Fixed Yoke Conversion. The kits turn the back of the transfer case to be like the front of the transfer case. Your front shaft's always spinning... they're fine at highway speeds, lol
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Yeah, save up. The most "complete" kit I'm aware of is the 4.5 or 5.5" that Serious Offroad puts together (used to be a vendor here). It's pretty much a Rubicon Express lift, that comes with his long arm upgrade (radius arms), and a SYE and drive shaft. You'd still need to figure out steering though.

http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...Path=419_2040&

That 5.5" kit would probably net you close to 6.5".

Also, that's almost a $2,500 kit though, and proves the point of cost that NewKindofClown mentioned.
Or you could do the Cavfab "build a lift" kit... nets 5.5" (but with RE springs front and rear, the numbers are usually an inch lower than actual lift). Gives you 3-link long arms, springs, trac bar, shocks, shackles, all for less than 2 grand... you can even upgrade your steering for an extra couple hundo... leaving you only to shop around for an SYE of your choice and your extended brake lines.

Nothing against Frank at Serious, because that is a good kit... but there are less expensive options that are more inclusive.

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
People were outraged nationwide when the KM was discontinued. Maybe it has to do with the way people wheel their brand new Jeeps, or maybe BFG changed the rubber compound for the JK tires, but the original KM is venerable
Agreed. I miss my KMs.

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Not I! No mud tires for me. I thought about it, but it doesn't make sense. Gonna stick with the Duratracs I have in the garage (31's) unless I just go and buy 33's, but they'll still be Duratracs.

Think Spydie is the one looking at those KM's.
If you're going anywhere near anything jagged on a trail, I would recommend another tire. Duratracs are SUPERIOR in snow and wet traction, but the sidewalls are junk. I was strongly considering them until I was behind a jeep on a trail that rubbed up against a tree root and tore a nice sized gash in the sidewall. That changed the decision for me real quick.
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Quick question, Im buying my lift piece by piece and looking to get 4-5" higher. So far I have 3" Rustys coils and 2"spacers for up front, and then 2" shackles and 2" AAL for the rear. Then some skyjacker nitro shocks. Is there anything im missing, and what should I keep an eye out for?
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Originally Posted by mendo2001
Quick question, Im buying my lift piece by piece and looking to get 4-5" higher. So far I have 3" Rustys coils and 2"spacers for up front, and then 2" shackles and 2" AAL for the rear. Then some skyjacker nitro shocks. Is there anything im missing, and what should I keep an eye out for?
shackles and aal? Nah man get some full packs you'll thank yourself later
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Long arms, SYE, driveshaft, full leaf packs, shims, shackle relocators, new brake lines, and new steering come to mind.
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Found a 3" pack from fatbobs and the reviews are pretty good. Thanks Martlor!

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Google works wonders. I found a 3" pack from fatbobs that is in my range. Thank you Martlor!
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Hey not sure if this is the right thread but was looking for some info regarding this lift kit.

Amazon Amazon

my xj is stock right now, I just want it to have a little bit of more height. I'm not an off road guy, will this kit be sufficient? also I noticed the front is 3" and the back is 1.5", will that be noticeably un even?
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Hey guys i currently have a 3 inch lift with 31s on my xj and plan on going to 32s but I need to bumpstop since I'm already stuffing the 31s on the trails and I'm sure it'll get worse down the road so I was wondering if anyone could just give me the correct bumstop measurements that I need. Appreciate it guys
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Would 4 inch backspacing with 31x10.5s be too much with a 3 inch lift and stock fenders.

https://www.quadratec.com/products/9...J6kaAvk_8P8HAQ
These are the wheels I want, the 15x8 ones.
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Originally Posted by surfysurfy
Hey not sure if this is the right thread but was looking for some info regarding this lift kit.

Amazon Amazon

my xj is stock right now, I just want it to have a little bit of more height. I'm not an off road guy, will this kit be sufficient? also I noticed the front is 3" and the back is 1.5", will that be noticeably un even?
Yes it will be extremely uneven. The rear is .5" less from the factory.


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