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How messed up is my suspension, I get death wobble above 40 mph
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How messed up is my suspension, I get death wobble above 40 mph
That picture honestly doesn't tell much. You need to get under there with someone turning the steering wheel and see if there is any slop/play in the joints. See how the control arm bushings look. When was the last time your tires were balanced? Do you have a bent wheel? Did you make any changes to cause this to happen or just start randomly? There are a lot of factors that you need to look into.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
That picture honestly doesn't tell much. You need to get under there with someone turning the steering wheel and see if there is any slop/play in the joints. See how the control arm bushings look. When was the last time your tires were balanced? Do you have a bent wheel? Did you make any changes to cause this to happen or just start randomly? There are a lot of factors that you need to look into.
I actually just bought the thing, someone did point out my stabilizer is mounted wrong so that’s fixed now
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It was suggested I get a drop pitman arm, how much of a drop should I need?
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
That picture honestly doesn't tell much. You need to get under there with someone turning the steering wheel and see if there is any slop/play in the joints. See how the control arm bushings look. When was the last time your tires were balanced? Do you have a bent wheel? Did you make any changes to cause this to happen or just start randomly? There are a lot of factors that you need to look into.
did that today and the only play in anything is the steering box and pitman arm, the arm actually wobbles on the splines
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did that today and the only play in anything is the steering box and pitman arm, the arm actually wobbles on the splines
That could be part of it and drop pitman arm is more for getting the drag link and the track bar parallel to reduce bumpsteer.
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That could be part of it and drop pitman arm is more for getting the drag link and the track bar parallel to reduce bumpsteer.
I guess it wouldn’t hurt to get that fixed too because I’m sure the stock arm is trashed. Everything else looked okay tho nothing seemed loose
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I guess it wouldn’t hurt to get that fixed too because I’m sure the stock arm is trashed. Everything else looked okay tho nothing seemed loose
I wouldn't put a drop pitman arm on it unless it needed it. With the way your drag link is mounted and you appear to have a custom bracket for the track bar so they are probably parallel as is or verily Close. I can't tell by the picture you took though.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
I wouldn't put a drop pitman arm on it unless it needed it. With the way your drag link is mounted and you appear to have a custom bracket for the track bar so they are probably parallel as is or verily Close. I can't tell by the picture you took though.
I’ll try and get a better picture for you.


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I’ll try and get a better picture for you.

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I guess it wouldn’t hurt to get that fixed too because I’m sure the stock arm is trashed. Everything else looked okay tho nothing seemed loose
It appears the drag link and trackbar (panhard bar) are not configured correctly. The two components should be parallel to each other when a line is drawn from end-point to end-point.
Your rigs steering has been modified by transferring draglink to top of steering knuckle, will need to do the same with trackbar to keep the two parallel. There are mounts made just for this, relocating bar to on top of axle.

Pitman arm should not move/wiggle on steering output shaft. I suggest figuring out what is going on there, it is a safety issue. If that connection slips on the splines than you may not be able to control the vehicle, or the vehicle could go out of control and not respond to steering input.
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
It appears the drag link and trackbar (panhard bar) are not configured correctly. The two components should be parallel to each other when a line is drawn from end-point to end-point.
Your rigs steering has been modified by transferring draglink to top of steering knuckle, will need to do the same with trackbar to keep the two parallel. There are mounts made just for this, relocating bar to on top of axle.

Pitman arm should not move/wiggle on steering output shaft. I suggest figuring out what is going on there, it is a safety issue. If that connection slips on the splines than you may not be able to control the vehicle, or the vehicle could go out of control and not respond to steering input.
I’ll have to look into the track bar thing. As far as the steering box it’s getting completely replaced along with the pitman arm. Do I need something like this? https://www.morris4x4center.com/orv-...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

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This is a straight on picture of the suspension. Where I circled the track bar and drag link actually are parallel, it isn’t at the bottom tho as you can see.
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Originally Posted by larryftmfw
This is a straight on picture of the suspension. Where I circled the track bar and drag link actually are parallel, it isn’t at the bottom tho as you can see.
Looks like you have a couple options. Putting the drag link on the top of the pitman arm may get the steering closer to parallel or even parallel. That is how I have mine mounted, but I have a different track bar mount then you so I can't say 100%. Or you can mount the track bar over the axle by welding on a new bracket and getting a shorter track bar. Cav fab makes a kit that I'll probably go with I get around to it.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Looks like you have a couple options. Putting the drag link on the top of the pitman arm may get the steering closer to parallel or even parallel. That is how I have mine mounted, but I have a different track bar mount then you so I can't say 100%. Or you can mount the track bar over the axle by welding on a new bracket and getting a shorter track bar. Cav fab makes a kit that I'll probably go with I get around to it.
If you draw a line from one end point to the other end point the two lines should be parallel like thisAttachment 403190
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