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Actually I have considered doing the same to my 2wd that I tow behind the motor home. Add a locker and you should be to handle most of the easier trails. I would not go higher than a 3 inch.
I have been looking everywhere for rocker panels and cant seem to find any that are meant for the cherokee. if anyone has some good sites to check out i would really appreciate the help.
Just bought a '94 XJ with an unknown lift, I'm thinking maybe 4"? Is there any way to measure or tell what size lift you have? This thing is leaning to the right, another forum member suspected it was the back springs. The front looks like it has new springs and shocks, the back end not so much. And there was another set of shocks in the back, looked to be longer? Not sure where to even start with this to find out what is causing the lean?
You might simply measure all 4 wheel locations from pavement to the top of the fender well and compare to ascertain which spring - But ALWAYS replace springs in pairs and always buy quality springs
Last edited by Very Red XJ; 07-20-2021 at 09:45 AM.
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Lippincott Mine Road, Death Valley Note that this is a 2" lift with 235/75/r16 tires (29.7" ) that fills the wheel wells
Originally Posted by RealDealBJJ
Hey Guys,
Not sure if this is where I'm supposed to post this, but here goes.
I live in SoCal and have a 2000 XJ Sport Freedom addition that is currently stock. It's my daily driver with 210k miles on it. I don't do any crazy off roading, just some camping and want to give it a little more clearance and a great look and improve it's ability to do some basic off roading while maintaining a smooth ride as my daily driver. I was thinking of doing a basic lift somewhere between 2-3.5" along with some 30-31" tires. I also don't want to open pandoras box of having to possibly modify the drivetrain and other things because of too much lift & I'm trying to keep the cost down as much as possible. I can most likely install the lift kit myself as I'm pretty handy and do all of my own work on it as it is.
I have no experience with lifts and just wanted to get feedback on whether this is a decent setup along with any other suggestions. I was steered toward the 2" lift instead of the 3" because the guy said at that point I could run into the challenge of driveline modifications to compensate for the extra lift, whereas the 2" is basically plug & play.
A 30.5 will rub - you need to a 30" or smaller tire in the 235/245 range - typical for a 2" lift is 235/75/r16 = 29.7" Highly recommend 7" wide rims - they hold these tires better and you'll have fewer problems. You'll need to extend the brake lines and add an adjustable track bar - good luck
Last edited by Very Red XJ; 07-20-2021 at 01:33 PM.
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Hi all, I know nothing about lifted jeeps so i could use some help.
My son in law dropped off his 99 cherokee xj at my shop.
it is lifted ( poorly) it has a horrible wobble and sags hard at even the slightest turn.
I put it on the lift and see the springs are so tall that i cant imagine how these can stay stable.
Here is what the ad says from where he bought it.
6in lift Rubicon springs on front.
iron rock shocks
1 ton steering by iron rock /over the knuckle-fab steering brace with box plate
3" rear iron rock leaf spring blox
and rear leaf adjustable shackles
35" tires
ill attempt to post some pics.
I build classic stangs and a whole lot doesn't seem right to me here. we won't
even mention that lovely weld job on the stabilizer, so if anyone can spot obvious problems please advise.
thx
I don't think you need me to tell you that the lack of a front sway bar is a safety issue. Base Ball bump stops to put on over-size tires are something you don't see every day - for good reason. What does your son-in law want to do with this? Flat-bed it to a trail-head is as close to pavement as I'd recommend. Did they regear the diff's for the heavy tires? They will self-destruct without regearing - 35's are pushing a dana 30 past it's limit.- stock axels have been known to snap with this much tire. How are the bushings in the control arms (upper and lower)? Ball joints and tie-rods ? Wobble can come from many sources - but a huge lift like this will amplify a little problem. Can your son-in -law take this mess back? A good shop like your local 4-wheel store will have the experience - if he has the money. This is beyond the expertise of most mechanic's. I wouldn't want to tackle it.
Last edited by Very Red XJ; 07-20-2021 at 01:43 PM.
I don't think you need me to tell you that the lack of a front sway bar is a safety issue. Base Ball bump stops to put on over-size tires are something you don't see every day - for good reason. What does your son-in law want to do with this? Flat-bed it to a trail-head is as close to pavement as I'd recommend. Did they regear the diff's for the heavy tires? They will self-destruct without regearing - 35's are pushing a dana 30 past it's limit.- stock axels have been known to snap with this much tire. How are the bushings in the control arms (upper and lower)? Ball joints and tie-rods ? Wobble can come from many sources - but a huge lift like this will amplify a little problem. Can your son-in -law take this mess back? A good shop like your local 4-wheel store will have the experience - if he has the money. This is beyond the expertise of most mechanic's. I wouldn't want to tackle it. [/QUOTE]
I don't think you need me to tell you that the lack of a front sway bar is a safety issue. Base Ball bump stops to put on over-size tires are something you don't see every day - for good reason. What does your son-in law want to do with this? Flat-bed it to a trail-head is as close to pavement as I'd recommend. Did they regear the diff's for the heavy tires? They will self-destruct without regearing - 35's are pushing a dana 30 past it's limit.- stock axels have been known to snap with this much tire. How are the bushings in the control arms (upper and lower)? Ball joints and tie-rods ? Wobble can come from many sources - but a huge lift like this will amplify a little problem. Can your son-in -law take this mess back? A good shop like your local 4-wheel store will have the experience - if he has the money. This is beyond the expertise of most mechanic's. I wouldn't want to tackle it.
That's why I don't purchase lifted vehicles.[/QUOTE]
your a wise man
I don't think you need me to tell you that the lack of a front sway bar is a safety issue. Base Ball bump stops to put on over-size tires are something you don't see every day - for good reason. What does your son-in law want to do with this? Flat-bed it to a trail-head is as close to pavement as I'd recommend. Did they regear the diff's for the heavy tires? They will self-destruct without regearing - 35's are pushing a dana 30 past it's limit.- stock axels have been known to snap with this much tire. How are the bushings in the control arms (upper and lower)? Ball joints and tie-rods ? Wobble can come from many sources - but a huge lift like this will amplify a little problem. Can your son-in -law take this mess back? A good shop like your local 4-wheel store will have the experience - if he has the money. This is beyond the expertise of most mechanic's. I wouldn't want to tackle it.
That's why I don't purchase lifted vehicles.[/QUOTE]
Smart man -
I’m about due for tires, and I’m looking for input. I have rubicon express 3.5 lift, currently have desert rat tracker ii 15x8 wheels with 31”bfg at KOs. They’ve been good tires. I’m looking to run something quieter and thinking of going with a more narrow stance. We live in the mountains a couple miles up a steep windy gravel road, but I don’t do a lot of wheeling otherwise. I’m looking for a tire that’s better on road and looking to bring the wheels in to sling less dirt on the jeep when just going up and down our road. I don’t need to look like I just got back from the trail all the time. So I was thinking of running Cooper Discoverer AT3 235/75 r15s with no spacers.
So looking for input on the tires and also is it ok stability wise to have 3.5 lift without spacing out the wheels?
If these are the wheels you have even with a 235 tire with a wheel backspace of 3.625" the tires will be outside the flares. Are you running spacers with those wheels? https://www.desertrat.com/i-23318058...ack-5x4-5.html
Even with 235's on oem steel wheels which have a backspace of 5.25" the tires especially in front throw mud on the vehicle's sides.
I can't read how wide your 31's are - but clearly, they are spaced out. However, putting small tires on a 3-1/2" lift may look a little too roller skate like for comfort. I run 245/75/r16's on steel dimpled 16x7 rims with the factory off-set and back-spacing on a 3-1/4" lift: Black Rock Series 997 Type 8 Steel Wheel in Matte Black for Jeep Vehicles with 5x4.5 Bolt Pattern | Quadratec . Depending on your actual lift, you may be able to put 235/85/16's (a tall narrow tire) or you may try a 30" tire in the 235/75/r16 range, which would look a little more proportionate with your lift then a 235/75r15's. The smaller tire will lower your jeep overall which will may add stability.
Those are the wheels. The tires are 10.5 wide and there are spacers but I don’t remember the size. Thanks for the input on the 235s on oem wheels that’s helpful.
Originally Posted by EZEARL
If these are the wheels you have even with a 235 tire with a wheel backspace of 3.625" the tires will be outside the flares. Are you running spacers with those wheels? https://www.desertrat.com/i-23318058...ack-5x4-5.html
Even with 235's on oem steel wheels which have a backspace of 5.25" the tires especially in front throw mud on the vehicle's sides.
The BFGs are 10.5 wide. So by my calculations yours about 30,5? And yes I was wondering if it would look goofy if I go too small. But mainly trying to get the wheels back in the well and run a less noisy all terrain tire. What tires are you running and how do you like them?
Originally Posted by Very Red XJ
I can't read how wide your 31's are - but clearly, they are spaced out. However, putting small tires on a 3-1/2" lift may look a little too roller skate like for comfort. I run 245/75/r16's on steel dimpled 16x7 rims with the factory off-set and back-spacing on a 3-1/4" lift: Black Rock Series 997 Type 8 Steel Wheel in Matte Black for Jeep Vehicles with 5x4.5 Bolt Pattern | Quadratec . Depending on your actual lift, you may be able to put 235/85/16's (a tall narrow tire) or you may try a 30" tire in the 235/75/r16 range, which would look a little more proportionate with your lift then a 235/75r15's. The smaller tire will lower your jeep overall which will may add stability.
Max, yes, they are 30.5" . I run 245's which are 9.8" wide on 7" rims. BFG KO2's which are great on our 4x4 trails in California and good on the pavement. I ran 235/75r16 Hankook ATM's (9.3w x 29.7) when I had a 2" lift, and the BFG's are better both on dirt and pavement. Obviously, the narrower the tire the less spray on your Jeep - there are a lot of "light" AT tires coming on the market that could meet your needs. Just keep your chrome lug nuts. BTW, Your jeep looks great
".....mainly trying to get the wheels back in the well .."
Even with the tires inside the well your going to get debris against the body.
These are 235's on OEM rims (5.25" b/s) which are inside the wheel wells:
Not much less mud than with 235's on 15x7's w/4.25" b/s:
225's or 215's MAY do better but I don't believe you'll like the look. Some sort of 16" size tire on a 16x7 rim with a backspace less than 4.25" might be doable.
09-21-2015, 02:17 PM
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