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09-27-2021, 09:11 PM
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Hey Guys,
So I finally pulled the trigger on a lift.
I ended up just going with spacers in the front 1 3/4" & an adjustable shackles kit in the back 1.5-2" along with Bilstein 5100's all the way around. I'm going to go with 30" tires as well. It just came down to cost & the fact I don't do a lot of wheeling yet, so I wanted to start small & affordable.
I was just curious, with this type of setup, is there anything else that is really needed? Should I get an adjustable track bar or is that not really necessary with this setup? And is there anything else I should get or consider?
Also, just installed the Big 7 upgrade yesterday. It was relatively simple to do & I noticed an immediate difference upon startup. If you haven't done this upgrade, I'd highly recommend it. The next upgrade is the Headlight harness upgrade. For $25 to improve your headlights by 50% brightness is insane.
What are some other basic/inexpensive upgrades you guys have done that made a significant difference in your Jeep?
So I finally pulled the trigger on a lift.
I ended up just going with spacers in the front 1 3/4" & an adjustable shackles kit in the back 1.5-2" along with Bilstein 5100's all the way around. I'm going to go with 30" tires as well. It just came down to cost & the fact I don't do a lot of wheeling yet, so I wanted to start small & affordable.
I was just curious, with this type of setup, is there anything else that is really needed? Should I get an adjustable track bar or is that not really necessary with this setup? And is there anything else I should get or consider?
Also, just installed the Big 7 upgrade yesterday. It was relatively simple to do & I noticed an immediate difference upon startup. If you haven't done this upgrade, I'd highly recommend it. The next upgrade is the Headlight harness upgrade. For $25 to improve your headlights by 50% brightness is insane.
What are some other basic/inexpensive upgrades you guys have done that made a significant difference in your Jeep?
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09-28-2021, 04:35 AM
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You do realize that you'll have to get a SYE kit for your transfer case, a new drive shaft, re-gear your diffs - or better replace them as the kindest comment I've heard about a Dana 35 is: "they're not worth rebuilding". It was designed for a 36lb tire and you're replacing it with a 63lb tire!? The chances for snapping week axels are too great for anyone who doesn't want to walk home. 12" wide tires require a lot of trimming on stock finders if you don't want them to rub badly of give up on any articulation.33's are typical tires with a 4.5" lift. When your through with all of that, you can worry about back- space
Yes I am aware of all this! I am in the process of building my jeep right now!!! I just want to cut my fender ahaha
I have the SYE eliminator planned, am waiting to receive it to mount it and know what length I need for my driveshaft! I have a 5 speed NV3550 and NP231
I don't plan to rebuild my D35 for the moment nor change the gearing, I understood that it was a useless waste of money. I'm waiting to find a F8.8 at the junkyard or at least an 8.25. I'm in France so it's a little more complicated!
I will just Daly drive it for the moment, no wheeling at all!
And for my rims I found the answer in this chart ET-44 is equivalent to 3.75 of backspacing Which I think is fine for 10x15 rims with some little rubbing I think even after cutting my fenders!
10-06-2021, 10:09 PM
Junior Member
5100's are fine shocks! Replacing the stock 1/2" seat/spacer with a 1-3/4" seat /spacer will net a modest 1-1/4" lift in front which will allow you to place a little weight on the back to make the 1-1/2" shackles lift set level ( depending on how much those old springs are sagging). This modest lift shouldn't require an adjustable track-bar and should be relatively easy to install
Are there specific bump stops I should be looking at for the front?
10-09-2021, 11:09 AM
Seasoned Member
BUMP STOPS
A good selection to meet any budjet;
https://www.quadratec.com/vehicle/19...ion/bump-stops
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10-19-2021, 07:45 AM
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Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
'92 XJ advice on lift / tires
Hey everyone,
It's been about 12 years since I listed an XJ and need some advice.
I just got my hands on a 92 Cherokee that mint. I plan on just using it as a cruiser with my 16yo son driving it to school here and there. It will see very little to almost no offroading - I have other Jeeps for that.
I'm looking to lift and would love to get the largest tire i can in it without cutting up the fender. My list important quality is ride and stability. I will not be working this Jeep, just want it to ride beautifully and look even nicer.
Back on the day RE and OME were the go to manufacturer. Who should I be looking at now for a lift with a great ride? Recommendations!
Thanks!
It's been about 12 years since I listed an XJ and need some advice.
I just got my hands on a 92 Cherokee that mint. I plan on just using it as a cruiser with my 16yo son driving it to school here and there. It will see very little to almost no offroading - I have other Jeeps for that.
I'm looking to lift and would love to get the largest tire i can in it without cutting up the fender. My list important quality is ride and stability. I will not be working this Jeep, just want it to ride beautifully and look even nicer.
Back on the day RE and OME were the go to manufacturer. Who should I be looking at now for a lift with a great ride? Recommendations!
Thanks!
10-19-2021, 10:53 AM
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OME is still the best
Hey everyone,
It's been about 12 years since I listed an XJ and need some advice.
I just got my hands on a 92 Cherokee that mint. I plan on just using it as a cruiser with my 16yo son driving it to school here and there. It will see very little to almost no offroading - I have other Jeeps for that.
I'm looking to lift and would love to get the largest tire i can in it without cutting up the fender. My list important quality is ride and stability. I will not be working this Jeep, just want it to ride beautifully and look even nicer.
Back on the day RE and OME were the go to manufacturer. Who should I be looking at now for a lift with a great ride? Recommendations!
Thanks!
It's been about 12 years since I listed an XJ and need some advice.
I just got my hands on a 92 Cherokee that mint. I plan on just using it as a cruiser with my 16yo son driving it to school here and there. It will see very little to almost no offroading - I have other Jeeps for that.
I'm looking to lift and would love to get the largest tire i can in it without cutting up the fender. My list important quality is ride and stability. I will not be working this Jeep, just want it to ride beautifully and look even nicer.
Back on the day RE and OME were the go to manufacturer. Who should I be looking at now for a lift with a great ride? Recommendations!
Thanks!
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10-19-2021, 11:12 AM
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Year: 1999 classic
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Depends on the amount of lift. Both companies still offer good quality. For lower lifts definitely OME.
Personally I’d go with RE springs for 4.5” or 5.5” lifts. I’m running 4.5” RE springs right now and really like them.
I’ve run 3” springs before and most have a high spring rate and ride like crap. RE 3.5” fronts are 240. RE 4.5” fronts are 164.
People seem to really like the OME stuff for lower lifts.
Personally I’d go with RE springs for 4.5” or 5.5” lifts. I’m running 4.5” RE springs right now and really like them.
I’ve run 3” springs before and most have a high spring rate and ride like crap. RE 3.5” fronts are 240. RE 4.5” fronts are 164.
People seem to really like the OME stuff for lower lifts.
10-26-2021, 08:43 AM
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: Stock 4.0 I6
Tj springs?
I have a used lift kit that I am taking off a parts car and it has 4.5-inch coils springs and a 2-inch spacer on top. Making about a 6.5-inch lift in the front. I have been playing with the idea of just dropping Tj lift springs in the front to tidy the look-up. My only problem is I don't know if the TJ spring will just drop right in.I am doing an Artec front truss and gussets which might change the answer. Whatt do yall think?
10-26-2021, 11:19 AM
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Year: 1999 classic
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Tj coils in an xj are minus 1 inch. 6” tj coils will give you approximately 5”. 2” spacers are big. I’d ditch em.
I run an Artec truss on a d30. No problems here. If you want to use tj coils the truss and gussets won’t be a problem as far as I know.
I run an Artec truss on a d30. No problems here. If you want to use tj coils the truss and gussets won’t be a problem as far as I know.
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10-26-2021, 06:49 PM
Has anyone gone with the DPG Off-road "Super Ultimate XJ Old Man Emu Hybrid" kit? (Can be found here- https://dpgoffroad.com/product/3-5″-...mu-hybrid-kit/ )
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
10-26-2021, 07:14 PM
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Has anyone gone with the DPG Off-road "Super Ultimate XJ Old Man Emu Hybrid" kit? (Can be found here- https://dpgoffroad.com/product/3-5″-...mu-hybrid-kit/ )
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
10-26-2021, 07:24 PM
Looks like a complete Kit except for the SYE transfer case conversion ($250) and the new drive shaft ($850) that you will need with that tall of a lift. I have OME's full spring pack in the rear (6 leaves) and a 1-1/2" seat/spacer in front with OME coil springs to replace the stock springs and the stock1/2"seat/spacer to net a 3-1/4" actual lift front and rear - a great and very capable combo without having to buy a new drive shaft
10-26-2021, 09:06 PM
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10-26-2021, 09:43 PM
Yes - unfortunately, the XJ was designed for much lighter tires then the 33's that go with that lift and it will not hold up if you wheel it or drive it hard. You'll also have to re-gear the diffs and in a short time you'll want to up-grade the brakes as the inertia of heaver tires will strain the merger stock braking system. Can you weld? That long-arm suspension will need new mounting points
10-26-2021, 09:48 PM
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Has anyone gone with the DPG Off-road "Super Ultimate XJ Old Man Emu Hybrid" kit? (Can be found here- https://dpgoffroad.com/product/3-5″-...mu-hybrid-kit/ )
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Seems solid enough and it looks like it includes all the parts to get the job done.
Any insight would be appreciated!
Thanks,
From what I see that’s a short arm kit. No welding required.
Your stock brakes will work fine.