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Old 06-28-2011, 02:26 PM
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would buying some original leaf springs, the doing an AAL be a good idea? as oppossed to spending ~$400 on a new 3" rear leaf pack?
I can get a leaf pach for ~$100, and lift kits come with the additional leafs....
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Originally Posted by xterrible
would buying some original leaf springs, the doing an AAL be a good idea? as oppossed to spending ~$400 on a new 3" rear leaf pack?
I can get a leaf pach for ~$100, and lift kits come with the additional leafs....
Any idea involving aal is a bad idea.
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Okay so i'm looking for a 2-3" lift for as cheap as possible, that doesn't involve me scouring through junkyards. I'm only trying to fit 30"s on my XJ with absolutely no rubbing whatsoever, so 2" will do just fine.

This is the BB i'm looking at: http://www.teraflex.biz/xj-cherokee-...get-boost.html

However, I remember seeing this topic a few days ago: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/2-...tensive-94284/

If I can get those rear shackles for $40, and get 2-3 inches out of them, would I be better off ordering separate spacers for the front? The Teraflex lift kit says it's 2" but also says 1.5" to 2".

What would be the best thing to do, with as little work as possible? I don't have a giant auto shop and tool selection at my dispense...
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A couple questions:

'90 XJ Laredo.

First, the sticker inside my door says the stock tires were 195/75r15, with a 6" wide wheel. That kind of surprised me, as I thought those small tires were only stock on some 2-wheel drive XJs.

When I got it, though, it had 215/75 r15, and it looks like the wheels are 7" wide (best as I can measure with the tires on). They are also aluminum rather than steel, so I'm guessing wheels as well as tires aren't stock.

Assuming stock suspension and using the same rims on there now, and considering what the stock tires and rims (supposedly) were, what's the largest tire I could put on here without any problems? 235? 255?

Also, is there an AT tire that is decent in moderate mud, as well as snow, ice, gravel, sand and general road use?

This is my DD, and also gets out on the freeway at least once a week, but also will be used for fairly regular off road (sand, gravel, light to moderate mud... heck, heavy mud if I could do it. I live in Western Washington, and we have lots of rain and mud to deal with), and winter weather driving too (mainly lots of rain, but sometimes snow and ice).

I was looking at the BFG AT T/A KOs, but heard they really suck in mud. Then I was looking at the General Grabber AT2s, which some people say are decent in light/moderate mud, but hard to balance.

Basically, I'm looking for the absolute best of all worlds, which probably does not exist, but if I knew more I could decide on the compromise I want to make. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by stryker1228
Any idea involving aal is a bad idea.
Is this a 'Jeep Thing', because I dont really understand. I had a Nissan with 3" of lift, and I did an AAL. Wheeled it pretty darn hard, and I will be doing my off roading in the same places/situations. Given, the vehicle was 9 years newer then my XJ...I just see alot here how horrible AAL is, but my experience, albeit with a different vehicle, has not shown me this.

Can someone explain?
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Originally Posted by troy fritz
Were going wheelin this weekend and I'll get yall some good pics of him on his AT's.
Pics dont proove anything.lol Only real evidence is videos

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Originally Posted by xterrible
Is this a 'Jeep Thing', because I dont really understand. I had a Nissan with 3" of lift, and I did an AAL. Wheeled it pretty darn hard, and I will be doing my off roading in the same places/situations. Given, the vehicle was 9 years newer then my XJ...I just see alot here how horrible AAL is, but my experience, albeit with a different vehicle, has not shown me this.

Can someone explain?
The main complaint is that they start to sag quicker than full leafs. They are more work to install as well since you have to take the leaf pack apart to put it in. Personally, I purchased the full leafs on my 3" kit and couldn't be happier.
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Basically, I'm looking for the absolute best of all worlds, which probably does not exist, but if I knew more I could decide on the compromise I want to make. Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have Firestone Destination M/T's and I love them.However if you drive often on the highway you might wanna go with the A/T's. As far as size goes I'm sure someone on CF could tell you. I run 235/75/15 with a pretty much stock rig, I haven't had any rubbing issues.
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Originally Posted by xterrible
Is this a 'Jeep Thing', because I dont really understand. I had a Nissan with 3" of lift, and I did an AAL. Wheeled it pretty darn hard, and I will be doing my off roading in the same places/situations. Given, the vehicle was 9 years newer then my XJ...I just see alot here how horrible AAL is, but my experience, albeit with a different vehicle, has not shown me this.

Can someone explain?
certain people dont like them. mine did fine on my ranger and later another guys ranger when i went to full leaf packs. that being said full leaf packs ride better and flex better up to a point. i was running 4" lift for a J4000 on my little ranger and it gave 8" (-2.5" since i took out the blocks so 5.5" end gain) even as high arched as they are they still flex better than my stock leafs+AAL+stock 2.5" block.
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I'll repost my question since nobody answered lol...

Hey everyone I am wanting to get the BF Goodrich All-Terrains in 31x10.50 15, but my 94 is at a stock height and will have Rancho RS5000 shocks on it by the end of this week. What is the MINIMUM lift requiredto clear these tires with no rubbingand steering interferences? Would a budget 2" lift work? Specifically, the lift I want to do just uses poly-u spacers on top of the front spring coils and spacers above the hangers on the back. Does anyone have experience using these? Would I have to reposition my transfer case so that the angle of the driveshaft isn't toosteep?

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Originally Posted by 94JeepCherokeeMan
I'll repost my question since nobody answered lol...

Hey everyone I am wanting to get the BF Goodrich All-Terrains in 31x10.50 15, but my 94 is at a stock height and will have Rancho RS5000 shocks on it by the end of this week. What is the MINIMUM lift requiredto clear these tires with no rubbingand steering interferences? Would a budget 2" lift work? Specifically, the lift I want to do just uses poly-u spacers on top of the front spring coils and spacers above the hangers on the back. Does anyone have experience using these? Would I have to reposition my transfer case so that the angle of the driveshaft isn't toosteep?

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Not entirely sure but I think you need at least 3" of lift to fit 31's with no trimming

Tcase should be fine but a drop isn't complicated if u need it, it depends on the XJ some people get lucky and can go 5" without a Tcase drop, some go 2" and have mad death wobble.
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Originally Posted by 1plunk

Not entirely sure but I think you need at least 3" of lift to fit 31's with no trimming

Tcase should be fine but a drop isn't complicated if u need it, it depends on the XJ some people get lucky and can go 5" without a Tcase drop, some go 2" and have mad death wobble.
Im running 30/9.50 15s on my 88 with stock suspension and it only rubs when its turned all the way to the lock
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Originally Posted by 96xjclassic
Basically, I'm looking for the absolute best of all worlds, which probably does not exist, but if I knew more I could decide on the compromise I want to make. Any advice would be appreciated.
I have Firestone Destination M/T's and I love them.However if you drive often on the highway you might wanna go with the A/T's. As far as size goes I'm sure someone on CF could tell you. I run 235/75/15 with a pretty much stock rig, I haven't had any rubbing issues.
Thanks for answering me. It seems no one can tell me max size, so I'll probably go with the 235s as well, since I know I can run that size. If I could just figure out which ones, I'll be in good shape. Choosing a good all around tire on a budget is not easy. Whatever I choose, I'll be stuck with for a while.

I'd love to throw a set of muds on, but I do run weekly and sometimes more on the freeway. I can't see mud tires doing well at 70mph on dry pavement. But in the Pacific Northwest, if you go off road at all you need something that can at least handle light/moderate mud, and it seems most of the ATs don't do mud well.

I think maybe I'll try the General Grabbers. They're not too expensive, are similar to the BFGs, but most people say they do pretty decent in mud.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Jacobite

I think maybe I'll try the General Grabbers. They're not too expensive, are similar to the BFGs, but most people say they do pretty decent in mud.

Thanks again.
I've been looking at the Grabbers as well. Can't find a bad review. Tirerack even rated them better in most catagories than the BFG TA/KOs.
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Originally Posted by stryker1228
I've been looking at the Grabbers as well. Can't find a bad review. Tirerack even rated them better in most catagories than the BFG TA/KOs.
thats cause they are better. they clean better by alot. not bad tires IMO


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