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Old 11-30-2011, 09:49 AM
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[QUOTE=askingxforxit;1361021]how do you know?? lol

I'd have to see some pics of 3" lift with 235/75.[QUOTE]

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X2; I used a 3" lift for a wile on my stock rims and tire size.you will be fine with a 3" lift kit because once you do the 2" you wont realy notice a diff form a new stock susp.and i found that i out flex xj's with 31's on a 3" lift with my 3" lift and stock size the only advantage they had on me was in the rut's
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Ok so 3" lift on 235/75 looks pretty good. I'm sure a little funny until the springs settle. What about brake lines and drive shaft? Any changes there??
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Originally Posted by wb joe
found this on naxjc

The one thing I have found out recently on leafs from Rusty's and RC, and I am sure several others. They seem to be purchasing their springs from the same vendor using smaller than stock eyes on the leafs. BEWARE, these are a substandard spring and bushing in my own opinion, and it seems after I did a few searches we are all suffering from premature bushings wear. Like you will have no bushings in a year or two. I have heard very good things about BDS, and they do use factory size spring eyes and poly bushings. I also beleive Currie uses the same set up as factory. I don't have any input into the other springs, LOL, but I wanted to make you fully aware of a seriously bad design issue that seems to be flooding the XJ aftermarket spring market.
I just bought my RC 4.5" lift in august. The eyes on the leafs are the same size as factory. I laid them next to each other before I installed the new ones and didn't see a difference. The one thing I didn't like was the sticker that said MADE IN CHINA! So far I have no issues with them though.
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Originally Posted by wb joe
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The one thing I have found out recently on leafs from Rusty's and RC, and I am sure several others. They seem to be purchasing their springs from the same vendor using smaller than stock eyes on the leafs. BEWARE, these are a substandard spring and bushing in my own opinion, and it seems after I did a few searches we are all suffering from premature bushings wear. Like you will have no bushings in a year or two. I have heard very good things about BDS, and they do use factory size spring eyes and poly bushings. I also beleive Currie uses the same set up as factory. I don't have any input into the other springs, LOL, but I wanted to make you fully aware of a seriously bad design issue that seems to be flooding the XJ aftermarket spring market.
yea...that's not true at all. They are not made by the same company, and have very different ride characteristics (Rusty's are very soft flexy leafs vs RC's semi-stiff leafs)

I have heard about Rusty's eyes being a little smaller than stock, but it's not that much of an issue - they have more than enough cushion and flex for the typical wheeler.

And trust me, you do not want poly bushings for leaf springs - they'll squeak terribly and will flex terribly.
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I'm just curious, what is the ride height difference in the 3" lift the day it was installed and after the springs settled??
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
I'm just curious, what is the ride height difference in the 3" lift the day it was installed and after the springs settled??
For mine it was about half an inch, it sat at 3.5" for a couple days, then I checked like a week later and it settled down to just over 3" like maybe 3 & 1/8"

Mine was a RC series II with full leafs if it makes a difference.
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Are brake line extensions recommended for a 3" lift? And if so where do I get the lines?
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Originally Posted by dukie564

And trust me, you do not want poly bushings for leaf springs - they'll squeak terribly and will flex terribly.
I have poly bushings in my OME 3" springs, no squeaking, and flex extremely well for having stock shackles.

Too bad I have crappy RC shocks and it rides like garbage.

12" and 14" travel Bilstein 5125s are in the works, getting them as a trade too


Originally Posted by askingxforxit
Are brake line extensions recommended for a 3" lift? And if so where do I get the lines?
I ran my 3" for over a year on stock brake lines, flexed it out as far as it would go multiple times and still had slack in the lines.

However if you want some longer brake lines for cheap, get GMC 1/2 front brake lines and a 96 Dakota 4x4 rear line. Both are bolt in and a ton longer than stock.
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Awesome thanks bro. Ok so as far as bushings go....leaf and sway bar is obvious. What about lower control arm?
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
Awesome thanks bro. Ok so as far as bushings go....leaf and sway bar is obvious. What about lower control arm?
Personally whenever I get around to building my 3 link for a nice compromise between flex/comfort I'm going to do rubber/88 durometer poly bushings at the axle and some sort of Heim joint at the crossmember. Should ride pretty nice and flex enough to get full travel out of the 14" travel Bilsteins i'm getting.

Rubber/Rubber or Poly/Poly ride much better than Heims or Jonny Joints but they don't flex worth a crap.
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Well this xj isn't going to see any aggressive trails or anything. I'm not after max travel just something to make it easier on the trails for camping trips or the roads where we go shooting in the desert.
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
Well this xj isn't going to see any aggressive trails or anything. I'm not after max travel just something to make it easier on the trails for camping trips or the roads where we go shooting in the desert.
Go with rubber bushings and find a way to cough up the coin for nice shocks, it literally makes a world of difference.
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Originally Posted by ZachsXJ

Go with rubber bushings and find a way to cough up the coin for nice shocks, it literally makes a world of difference.
You think the shocks that come with the Rustys 3" add-a-leaf kit will be sub par?? I could always run them for a while then upgrade later. They do have an option between nitro and hydro shocks. The nitro shocks do bump up the cost of the kit.
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Originally Posted by askingxforxit
You think the shocks that come with the Rustys 3" add-a-leaf kit will be sub par?? I could always run them for a while then upgrade later. They do have an option between nitro and hydro shocks. The nitro shocks do bump up the cost of the kit.
If you don't feel like coughing up a few hundred extra right now, stick with what they give you normally, save up and get some Rubicon Express Monotubes or Bilstein 5100 series shocks.


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