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Old 01-01-2012, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BNJeepsta
Well you could run the 1.5" OME with 2" shackles in the rear. That would do ya pretty good. Or you could look into rubicon express 3.5" rear leaf packs. I've heard the ride closer to 4" and are pretty stout


^That's a good idea! So simple I overlooked it hah
Then for the front I could just go for a 4" shock and spring combo?
Would that ride well and sit flat?

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Originally Posted by x91evo

^That's a good idea! So simple I overlooked it hah
Then for the front I could just go for a 4" shock and spring combo?
Would that ride well and sit flat?
Well if you go with the OME leafs and shackles I would look for a 3" coil and if it sits too high in the back even with the weight then throw a spacer puck on the coil. If you go the rubicon express route then I would go 4" coils bc rubicon tends to ride higher than advertised
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He said he'll be hauling 300+ pounds daily. The rear is NOT gonna sit at 4" from 3.5" springs with that much weight in it.
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Originally Posted by TrollHammer
100 bucks seems steep, tgough I havent priced newer XJ leafs. S10 leafs are the same length and have more oomph and are only 40 a pair here, and coils are dirt cheap. On my jeeps the coils didnt sag at all (91-93), but my leafs wrapped bad.

My opinion: depending on if your leafs are sagging or wrapped (s-curved), get a set of S10 springs and buold a bastard back with those packs and your old XJ packs. You may have to play with the order and which leafs to use to get the ride where you want it, but at 2", if you are looking at grabbing a 'new' set of springs anyway, this might be the best bang for the buck. I used the whole s10 pack minus the overload and my top XJ leaf (cut the eyes off the top S10 leaf), and netted 3.5" (5.5 measured up from the sagging old leafs). This, in my opinion, will be a better ride than an add a leaf on a stock spring.

For the front... You can look around using the list from "what junkyard parts will fit an XJ" for a listing of donor coils, but the way I went was with new Rusty's coils. Clear up to 3" is only 99 bucks or so plus shipping. I gave up to find a wrecked lifted YJ or older T-bird, and wouldnt consider bronco coils for wheeling. All three are much more rumor and myth in terms of existance in a junk yard in my area.

Be sure to grab the shocks from the S10 in the rear, as they are longer and shouldnt cost much if anything. Side note: GMC S15, and most S10 blazers (and clones) from mid 80s to mid 90s should all be the same, give or take a rough life. The only thing stopping a person from just using s10 springs in an XJ is the bolt hole for the pack is an inch or so off, relocating the axle. Dakota leafs are.supposed.to.work as well for bastard packs.

Other option is to do the newer stock XJ springs as you were planning and do a shackle lift, but if you dont set up your bump stops correctly you will kill the spring the first few times you flex it and be back where you started. Stock springs are about maxed out when they hit the stock bump stop, (which is why they sag so bad or wrap) so it seems to me that if you add 2" of shackle lift, you have to add 2" to your bump stop to limit it to the stock travel. This doesnt hold true as much with S10 springs as they are thicker and more curved (S10 springs are less often seen sagging than XJ springs, even with more travel, which is evident from the longer shock).
Awesome thanks for the help, I was unaware of the need to adjust the bumbstops with shackle lifts. I had considered s-10 spring packs before, I just thought getting new xj packs would be easier. Also used xj packs are $37 a piece, and coils are $19 a piece at my local junkyard, I haven't priced s-10 packs yet.

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Yeeaappp! Jeeps broke again.... ok track bar talk..
Think when I lifted jeep I kept stock track bar on.. now its 4 1/2 inches higher nd my track bars shot.. should I buy a stockie or a jks 4 inches and bigger of lift adjustable track bar?
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Originally Posted by Nickell586
My old rc coils did they same thing after I flexed them out pretty hard
Dudes.. my coils at the ends are bowwed out to... its like there bigger then they should because my lifts 4 1/2 inches and my coils are like smashed down in there... when I flex it poops on my buddys 4 1/2 lifted jeep xj maybe rc sent me the wrong gear maybe that's why the lift was discounted?
All I know it im ready for a new jeep these things are money pits! I love it though so I prob wont sel:\ hah
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Originally Posted by Kyle 4x4 4life
X2...you will always regret it if you dont do it right the first time.
Aka me.. im like a ok gotta do this NOW! And then I rush and mess somthing up and frit and franny about it lol
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Originally Posted by 98 brutus
Yeeaappp! Jeeps broke again.... ok track bar talk..
Think when I lifted jeep I kept stock track bar on.. now its 4 1/2 inches higher nd my track bars shot.. should I buy a stockie or a jks 4 inches and bigger of lift adjustable track bar?
Replace and upgrade, man.

I plan on IRO when I get mine. I haven't heard anything bad about them, and I see a lot of good reviews. No personal experience, yet.

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFX
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Quick question.. I'm looking to do a mild 1.5"-2" lift with shackles and spacers. Will I need new struts or is 2" mild enough that stock stut travel will suffice? Doing this mostly for looks and maybe some very easy off road trails that even stock xj's can handle.

Also what's a good size tire to stick onto stock steelies to make things proportionate? 235/80/15?
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Originally Posted by JustinGB
Quick question.. I'm looking to do a mild 1.5"-2" lift with shackles and spacers. Will I need new struts or is 2" mild enough that stock stut travel will suffice? Doing this mostly for looks and maybe some very easy off road trails that even stock xj's can handle.

Also what's a good size tire to stick onto stock steelies to make things proportionate? 235/80/15?
Your stock shocks will fit, but they'll wear out quickly. 235/75/15 is common on stock Cherokees, but you could run 30s or 31s (9.5 wide) if you adjust steering stops and add bumpstops.

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Your stock shocks will fit, but they'll wear out quickly. 235/75/15 is common on stock Cherokees, but you could run 30s or 31s (9.5 wide) if you adjust steering stops and add bumpstops.
Perfect that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'll just wait and save up for 2" coils, full leaf pack, shackles and good struts. With a 2" lift am
I compromising any of the stock suspension adjustments? Will a normal alignment get it back to spec?
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Originally Posted by 98 brutus
Yeeaappp! Jeeps broke again.... ok track bar talk..
Think when I lifted jeep I kept stock track bar on.. now its 4 1/2 inches higher nd my track bars shot.. should I buy a stockie or a jks 4 inches and bigger of lift adjustable track bar?
I stuck an RE Adj Track Bar on and love it. If it breaks it needs to be up graded. Thats the rule, stick to it of suffer the consequences.
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Originally Posted by JustinGB
Perfect that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'll just wait and save up for 2" coils, full leaf pack, shackles and good struts. With a 2" lift am
I compromising any of the stock suspension adjustments? Will a normal alignment get it back to spec?
As far as I know, you don't need any changes at 2" except that you should eventually get longer shocks. Wait for a second opinion on that from someone who's more confident of their answer.
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Originally Posted by x91evo
I was looking for a lift kit around 3-4" over stock, has to be heavy duty*
On a daily basis I haul 350-400lbs


And I want it to last as long as possible
(sounds impossible haha)*

I was shortly interested in the OME heavy duty kit until I noticed they only offer the heavy duty version in 1.5" over stock

So any suggestions would be appreciated*
DPG Offroad has OME custom packs for 3-4" that are HD packs with overloads.
Call up Dirk and he'll help you out.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
As far as I know, you don't need any changes at 2" except that you should eventually get longer shocks. Wait for a second opinion on that from someone who's more confident of their answer.
correct stock shocks will max out at 2". You really should consider longer ones unless you do absolutely no wheeling


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