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Old 09-26-2012, 09:37 AM
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or just **** it and cut away.
Pretty much.
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Dont by rough country! i know lots of people use rough country (because they are made cheap and sold cheap) but if you dont want problems with your lift then dont get rough country. if your going to modify your jeep get good parts, not cheap ***** rough country stuff. old man emu is probably one of the best lift company's at least for cherokees. it might cost you a pretty penny, but you will never have a problem if you go with ome. they have a 3 or a 3.5 HD lift for about 1300 but it will be worth every single penny and it comes with everything you need. new coils, brand new leafs, shocks, and lots of other goodies. here is a link to where i found the 3 3.5 lift, it isnt all ome but the other parts are jks and dpg, just as good as old man emu.
http://dpgoffroad.com/products/22-5-inch-ultimate-xj-old-man-emu-hybrid-kit-2/
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Originally Posted by htr2133
Great Site! I have a 98 Cherokee (all stock) and it is my DD. Mechanically it is in great shape and will be my DD for 2-3 more years. I don't do any aggressive off-roading; just occasional use of 4wd when hunting or fishing.

I really want to lift my jeep and upsize tires and wheels mainly for looks but also for better off road performance when needed. I am overwhelmed by all the stuff I am reading. I am also afraid I am going to mess up my jeep by doing this and always be having to have it in the shop with issues related to the lift kit. I have read as much as I can on here and I think I have my plan in order, but I just want to hear from some of you pros that I am on the right track and that I should be ok with what I plan to do in regards to maintenance issues.

I am going to do a 3 inch lift. Most likely Rough Country or Zone w new leaf packs because my current leaf pack is sagging very bad. I am still researching kits, but I am leaning toward one of these two. Will my ride quality improve or suffer from this? I get conflicting reports. My ride sucks now w the original stock shocks and leaf springs being worn out.

I want to run 31x10.50s.

I want new wheels and am looking at 15x8, but I don't know what the backspacing should be?

I have an option on two good deals right now, I can get a set of the nicer Jeep Spoke Alloys from a guy for $75. I know those are probably 15x7s but they do look nice. Can I run the 31x10.50s on those wheels and clear everything w the stock backspacing?

I also have an option on some American Eagle Alloys 15x8 and they have 31x10.50 BFG ATs already on them with 40-50% tread left for $300. I really like the wheels and the tires but I don't know how to confirm for myself that the backspacing is correct?

If I do the things above will my drive line be ok and will I have clearance for the tires? I don't want to do any cutting on the jeep for clearance.

Thanks for any help or info you guys can give. Sorry about the super long post.
Dont by rough country! i know lots of people use rough country (because they are made cheap and sold cheap) but if you dont want problems with your lift then dont get rough country. if your going to modify your jeep get good parts, not cheap ***** rough country stuff. old man emu is probably one of the best lift company's at least for cherokees. it might cost you a pretty penny, but you will never have a problem if you go with ome. they have a 3 or a 3.5 HD lift for about 1300 but it will be worth every single penny and it comes with everything you need. new coils, brand new leafs, shocks, and lots of other goodies. here is a link to where i found the 3 3.5 lift, it isnt all ome but the other parts are jks and dpg, just as good as old man emu.
http://dpgoffroad.com/products/22-5-inch-ultimate-xj-old-man-emu-hybrid-kit-2/
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I've personally had zero problems with rough country products. Yes they're value based, but they stand behind everything pretty well. Have you tried contacting them about your issues?

No need to come and start bashing a company when you obviously haven't been around the products for very long.
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I've personally had zero problems with rough country products. Yes they're value based, but they stand behind everything pretty well. Have you tried contacting them about your issues?

No need to come and start bashing a company when you obviously haven't been around the products for very long.
Same here. I feel my money was well spent. Yes, it was purchased on a budget, but in no way do I feel that I got an inferior product. And they definitely stand behind their products and have great customer service.
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Originally Posted by tlrxj11

Dont by rough country! i know lots of people use rough country (because they are made cheap and sold cheap) but if you dont want problems with your lift then dont get rough country. if your going to modify your jeep get good parts, not cheap ***** rough country stuff. old man emu is probably one of the best lift company's at least for cherokees. it might cost you a pretty penny, but you will never have a problem if you go with ome. they have a 3 or a 3.5 HD lift for about 1300 but it will be worth every single penny and it comes with everything you need. new coils, brand new leafs, shocks, and lots of other goodies. here is a link to where i found the 3 3.5 lift, it isnt all ome but the other parts are jks and dpg, just as good as old man emu.
http://dpgoffroad.com/products/22-5-...-hybrid-kit-2/
what brand is your lift???
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what brand is your lift???
Iron rock offroad 6.5" long arm and modified, i would have bought an ome 6.5 if they made them, and iro is the best i could find that i would trust to put under my jeep. i know people that have had rc lifts and the leafs either completely broke or started sagging after only a couple months of use, rc measure there lifts before they put the vehicle weight on them. but if you like them then go for them, its just a personal thing and if this guy that wants a 3 inch lift done right without the hassle of a problem he might have with his lift then i would suggest the ome lift cause they are NOT made cheap. i didnt mean to bash necessarily , just to help out. sorry
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Originally Posted by tlrxj11
Dont by rough country! i know lots of people use rough country (because they are made cheap and sold cheap) but if you dont want problems with your lift then dont get rough country. if your going to modify your jeep get good parts, not cheap ***** rough country stuff. old man emu is probably one of the best lift company's at least for cherokees. it might cost you a pretty penny, but you will never have a problem if you go with ome. they have a 3 or a 3.5 HD lift for about 1300 but it will be worth every single penny and it comes with everything you need. new coils, brand new leafs, shocks, and lots of other goodies. here is a link to where i found the 3 3.5 lift, it isnt all ome but the other parts are jks and dpg, just as good as old man emu.
http://dpgoffroad.com/products/22-5-inch-ultimate-xj-old-man-emu-hybrid-kit-2/
Says the guy with the cheapest, worst designed 6" long arm kit on the market.

You do realize that neither of these companys actually MAKE the leaf springs, right?
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Originally Posted by tlrxj11

Iron rock offroad 6.5" long arm and modified, i would have bought an ome 6.5 if they made them, and iro is the best i could find that i would trust to put under my jeep. i know people that have had rc lifts and the leafs either completely broke or started sagging after only a couple months of use, rc measure there lifts before they put the vehicle weight on them. but if you like them then go for them, its just a personal thing and if this guy that wants a 3 inch lift done right without the hassle of a problem he might have with his lift then i would suggest the ome lift cause they are NOT made cheap. i didnt mean to bash necessarily , just to help out. sorry
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i have a five inch lift and need to know if i will need new longer control arms. i have the jeep tore apart with the lift in but i cant get the control arms back together, eventually i want to upgrade but have no money right now, can any one help me?
That's was on 4-6 and you never talked about a lift in between then and now except saying you bought 3" coils that sag on one side.
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Originally Posted by tlrxj11
i just bought some new coils that give three inches of lift, they were the same size. and once the weight of the jeep is on the coils, i highly doubt there will be any sag to one side with how much difference you guys are talking about. and its a jeep, it doesnt need to be symmetrical or pretty, or perfect, it just needs to get you where you want to go. thats how i feel about mine even though it sags to the driver side, a lot.
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Says the guy with the cheapest, worst designed 6" long arm kit on the market.

You do realize that neither of these companys actually MAKE the leaf springs, right?
i dont see how mine is the worst designed. its been tested and proven to be durable and flex more than just about any other lift out there. iro makes their leafs at their shop cause i had to wait another week to get them cause they were still in production when i ordered it. and why would rc use crappy leafs that they didnt make then if they arent durable and they know they arent? i'm not trying to be the bad guy here, i'm just saying i dont trust rc's stuff if i'm going to abuse it.
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i didnt buy the saggy coils, mine were fine. i was commenting on someone that had coils and one was a little shorter and i was saying that i had just barely bought some and mine were fine. i got rid of those coils and bought a whole lift 'kit' cause my lift was a pieced together piece of crap that wasnt done right and that i couldnt wheel with without problems.
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Originally Posted by tlrxj11
i dont see how mine is the worst designed. its been tested and proven to be durable and flex more than just about any other lift out there. iro makes their leafs at their shop cause i had to wait another week to get them cause they were still in production when i ordered it. and why would rc use crappy leafs that they didnt make then if they arent durable and they know they arent? i'm not trying to be the bad guy here, i'm just saying i dont trust rc's stuff if i'm going to abuse it.
Iron Rock Offroad does NOT make their leaf springs in house. They order them. You had to wait because the folks that make them hadn't shipped them to IRO yet.

I won't get in to the whole IRO design debate again. Ultimately, it's my opinion since I've never owned it.

My point is that I don't hardly see how you can say RC is crap because it's cheap. Of course it's cheap... You get what you pay for.

IRO is cheap...

Both company's have good parts. Some of the parts they have designed wouldn't be installed on my bicycle.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Iron Rock Offroad does NOT make their leaf springs in house. They order them. You had to wait because the folks that make them hadn't shipped them to IRO yet.

I won't get in to the whole IRO design debate again. Ultimately, it's my opinion since I've never owned it.

My point is that I don't hardly see how you can say RC is crap because it's cheap. Of course it's cheap... You get what you pay for.

IRO is cheap...

Both company's have good parts. Some of the parts they have designed wouldn't be installed on my bicycle.
you have your opinion and i have mine. i've just heard, been told, and seen that rc doesnt have the best parts, some of them. dont get me wrong, i considered rc before i bought iro and both lifts are very similar, i just didnt want to have problems with rc if i knew i was going to have problems. and all the reviews i read about iro were good. and i like their design so far and i think its a good set up. if i do have problems with iro in the future then you can say i told you so.
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if i do have problems with iro in the future then you can say i told you so.
Will do. I'd also like a fully documented explanation with lots of pictures.


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