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Make my own lift kit
I've been researching like mad for the last 4 months for a 4.5" lift kit that has what I want in it. But it just doesn't seem to exist.
My list is fairly simple to me.
4.5" leaf packs that fit into the stock shackle. No extended or relocation needed. Meaning I just unbolt my axle unbolt springs at eyes, remove old springs reinstall new ones bolt back up (with new ubolts of course and extended brake hose))and I'M DONE. NO ADD A LEAF!
Might have to put in shims, but I've already got the HNT sitting on the work bench and a front cardon driveshaft.
For the front I want just the coils (NO SPACERS) upper and lower adjustable control arms, Fixed swaybar links, extended SS brake lines, and a adjustable track bar with a double shear and lowering bracket. Don't know if I'll need a drop pitman arm or not.
Not sure if I want the kit to have shocks as I'm thinking BPEs at the rear and bottom on the front with a stem replacement kit for the top. Then of course the shock price comes way down and if they are too harsh or something they aren't an arm and leg to replace
Am I asking for too much (or too little)? Or has someone seen a kit that has the features I want and I might have missed it?
My budget is between $750 and $1500. Don't want crap but I also don't plan on doing Moab anytime soon.
I just want to run 33s and use it as my DD. Mostly mud, snow and rocks under 2 feet.
My list is fairly simple to me.
4.5" leaf packs that fit into the stock shackle. No extended or relocation needed. Meaning I just unbolt my axle unbolt springs at eyes, remove old springs reinstall new ones bolt back up (with new ubolts of course and extended brake hose))and I'M DONE. NO ADD A LEAF!
Might have to put in shims, but I've already got the HNT sitting on the work bench and a front cardon driveshaft.
For the front I want just the coils (NO SPACERS) upper and lower adjustable control arms, Fixed swaybar links, extended SS brake lines, and a adjustable track bar with a double shear and lowering bracket. Don't know if I'll need a drop pitman arm or not.
Not sure if I want the kit to have shocks as I'm thinking BPEs at the rear and bottom on the front with a stem replacement kit for the top. Then of course the shock price comes way down and if they are too harsh or something they aren't an arm and leg to replace
Am I asking for too much (or too little)? Or has someone seen a kit that has the features I want and I might have missed it?
My budget is between $750 and $1500. Don't want crap but I also don't plan on doing Moab anytime soon.
I just want to run 33s and use it as my DD. Mostly mud, snow and rocks under 2 feet.
^why don't you want new shackles? You will get better flex. There is a resin they have shackles in lift kits. And if you want to be so picky just piece together your own parts. Here is what you want though http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...UTY-LEAF-PACKS it comes with new shackles because they add an inch if lift in the rear.
Edit: if you wouldn't mind going up to 5.5", this lift is close to what you listed http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=XLK
Edit: if you wouldn't mind going up to 5.5", this lift is close to what you listed http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=XLK
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And that is maybe the way I'm going on the kit. I actually have a set of 4.5" coils in my shop. Just need to piece together the rest.
I'm actually looking for reviews on the rear leafs most of all.
Like I said I want it simple and clean. No relocation boxes and no extended shackles.
Does anyone make a 4.5" leaf pack like that?
Last edited by Jamie57; 10-28-2012 at 01:59 PM. Reason: SPELNG!
Originally Posted by Jamie57
I don't need all the flex extra long shackles will give me. And I'm just kinda jaded about all the shacles hanging way past the bumper look. Reminds me of when I was young,dumb and broke and we all used them to jack up the rear of our crap cars so we could stuff BIG tires underneath.
And that is maybe the way I'm going on the kit. I actually have a set of 4.5" coils in my shop. Just need to piece together the rest.
I'm actually looking for reviews on the rear leafs most of all.
Like I said I want it simple and clean. No relocation boxes and no extended shackles.
Does anyone make a 4.5" leaf pack like that?
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Originally Posted by Jamie57
I've been researching like mad for the last 4 months for a 4.5" lift kit that has what I want in it. But it just doesn't seem to exist.
My list is fairly simple to me.
4.5" leaf packs that fit into the stock shackle. No extended or relocation needed. Meaning I just unbolt my axle unbolt springs at eyes, remove old springs reinstall new ones bolt back up (with new ubolts of course and extended brake hose))and I'M DONE. NO ADD A LEAF!
Might have to put in shims, but I've already got the HNT sitting on the work bench and a front cardon driveshaft.
For the front I want just the coils (NO SPACERS) upper and lower adjustable control arms, Fixed swaybar links, extended SS brake lines, and a adjustable track bar with a double shear and lowering bracket. Don't know if I'll need a drop pitman arm or not.
Not sure if I want the kit to have shocks as I'm thinking BPEs at the rear and bottom on the front with a stem replacement kit for the top. Then of course the shock price comes way down and if they are too harsh or something they aren't an arm and leg to replace
Am I asking for too much (or too little)? Or has someone seen a kit that has the features I want and I might have missed it?
My budget is between $750 and $1500. Don't want crap but I also don't plan on doing Moab anytime soon.
I just want to run 33s and use it as my DD. Mostly mud, snow and rocks under 2 feet.
My list is fairly simple to me.
4.5" leaf packs that fit into the stock shackle. No extended or relocation needed. Meaning I just unbolt my axle unbolt springs at eyes, remove old springs reinstall new ones bolt back up (with new ubolts of course and extended brake hose))and I'M DONE. NO ADD A LEAF!
Might have to put in shims, but I've already got the HNT sitting on the work bench and a front cardon driveshaft.
For the front I want just the coils (NO SPACERS) upper and lower adjustable control arms, Fixed swaybar links, extended SS brake lines, and a adjustable track bar with a double shear and lowering bracket. Don't know if I'll need a drop pitman arm or not.
Not sure if I want the kit to have shocks as I'm thinking BPEs at the rear and bottom on the front with a stem replacement kit for the top. Then of course the shock price comes way down and if they are too harsh or something they aren't an arm and leg to replace
Am I asking for too much (or too little)? Or has someone seen a kit that has the features I want and I might have missed it?
My budget is between $750 and $1500. Don't want crap but I also don't plan on doing Moab anytime soon.
I just want to run 33s and use it as my DD. Mostly mud, snow and rocks under 2 feet.
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Originally Posted by Jamie57
I don't need all the flex extra long shackles will give me. And I'm just kinda jaded about all the shacles hanging way past the bumper look. Reminds me of when I was young,dumb and broke and we all used them to jack up the rear of our crap cars so we could stuff BIG tires underneath.
And that is maybe the way I'm going on the kit. I actually have a set of 4.5" coils in my shop. Just need to piece together the rest.
I'm actually looking for reviews on the rear leafs most of all.
Like I said I want it simple and clean. No relocation boxes and no extended shackles.
Does anyone make a 4.5" leaf pack like that?
Originally Posted by bhennessee1
I know rustys makes a 4.5 inch leaf pack, and they make quality parts.
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And 5.5 is just a little too high for me. Good to know about the pricing on the stems VS the eye to eye shocks.
The one kit looks like there are no bushing in the leaf packs. Just an added expense I DON"T want to find out after it gets here.
Which BTW is a bit of a hassle. I live in The Great White North. If you've never had to deal with customs and brokers and shipping companies yada yada yada consider yourself a very luck man.
Last edited by Jamie57; 10-28-2012 at 02:12 PM.
Originally Posted by Jamie57
I was heading that way until I saw all the threads on the short leafs.
And 5.5 is just a little too high for me. Good to know about the pricing on the stems VS the eye to eye shocks.
The one kit looks like there are no bushing in the leaf packs. Just an added expense I DON"T want to find out after it gets here.
Witch BTW is a bit of a hassle. I live in The Great White North. If you've never had to deal with customs and brokers and shipping companies yada yada yada consider yourself a very luck man.
And 5.5 is just a little too high for me. Good to know about the pricing on the stems VS the eye to eye shocks.
The one kit looks like there are no bushing in the leaf packs. Just an added expense I DON"T want to find out after it gets here.
Witch BTW is a bit of a hassle. I live in The Great White North. If you've never had to deal with customs and brokers and shipping companies yada yada yada consider yourself a very luck man.
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Moderately extended shackles don't hang way past the bumper.
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Originally Posted by greenxj21
Uh so does every other lift company. And I wouldn't consider rustys quality. Look at the re leafs
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Hell Creek Suspension. I think they have a 4.5" option. ****ty website, but same warranty as BDS: If it ever breaks or sags, they send you a new one free.
When i put my 3inch in my front sway bar wouldnt fit so i bought quick disconnects that should fix that problem correct? I also would like to know how to adjust my track bar
Originally Posted by doublezero
When i put my 3inch in my front sway bar wouldnt fit so i bought quick disconnects that should fix that problem correct? I also would like to know how to adjust my track bar