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Year: 1993
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Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
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It is more beneficial to run a 8 inch wide rim than a 10 inch wide rim.
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Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: ERH 4.0L Power Tech I-6 (HO)
Better ride, mostly, thoughts?
In order for the springs to do their job they need to be able to move a bit as they contract and expand, that's why the shackle is there. They designed it for a 45° angle. But over time the springs deteriorate and don't contract or expand very much, so they dont ride very well and they put the shackle out of wack. Oem springs should be just fine if you aren't looking into lifting it any higher, they'll ride a he'll of a lot better I'm sure. Zj coils will give you an extra inch up front, and this will give your xj a "reverse rake" which is just the front sitting higher than the rear, so be aware.
What I would do in your position:
Take a pic of your leaf springs, get a few well trained eyes to see if they still have juice. Get one of your shackle as well, from the side so we can see the angle.
The next step would probably be new springs, depending on the condition yours are in. Then I would wait until the new leaves are in place before going anywhere. That will tell you if you need a shackle fix or more lift in the front to level it out. Keep the questions coming, someone else may have the same situation.
What I would do in your position:
Take a pic of your leaf springs, get a few well trained eyes to see if they still have juice. Get one of your shackle as well, from the side so we can see the angle.
The next step would probably be new springs, depending on the condition yours are in. Then I would wait until the new leaves are in place before going anywhere. That will tell you if you need a shackle fix or more lift in the front to level it out. Keep the questions coming, someone else may have the same situation.
Here's the driver side shackle, and the spring.
Here's the passenger side shackle, and the spring:
Here's side shots of levels (for rake & height):
Vehicle level -
Rack level closeup -
Ground level closeup -
Front height -
Rear height -
Was this enough to help with where I'm at (whether the rear leafs are dead and need replaced), and what I need for shackles, at this point?
The Warn Trans4mer brush guard probably adds 45 lbs plus to the front end, and the winch is probably going to add 50-75 (or more) lbs when I get to that point (as to the "going to ZJ V8 coils on the front" part of my questions).
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Year: 1996
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Better ride, mostly, thoughts?
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...which pretty much explains why the TJ rides so much better than the Cherokee on any and every surface we've been on.
Okay. So now I move on to the next part of my dilemma.
The rear leafs are shot. There's 150K (almost exactly) on the vehicle.
Since I'm going to pull the leafs, are the rear spring & shackle bushings also pretty standard candidates for replacement (i.e., are they a standard replacement item too, when you're replacing worn out rear springs)?
And if they are (and I'm going to go ahead and assume in advance of a confirmation it's probably doofuss-y to not replace 'em at the same time as new leafs), is there a reason for going with a greasable bushing kit over stock bushings? In other words, if the OEM bushings last as long as the springs anyways, is there still a point in paying more for greasable ones?
And what I think I'm seeing looking around online is there are greasable shackle kits and greasable spring bushing only kits. Is one or the other an advantage for longevity over plain ol' OEM style?
I'm going to assume the front coils likely aren't much better (if any, and maybe worse, since to my eyes and the level and the measurements the XJ appears almost level).
...but I'll get back to that issue later.
...which pretty much explains why the TJ rides so much better than the Cherokee on any and every surface we've been on.
Okay. So now I move on to the next part of my dilemma.
The rear leafs are shot. There's 150K (almost exactly) on the vehicle.
Since I'm going to pull the leafs, are the rear spring & shackle bushings also pretty standard candidates for replacement (i.e., are they a standard replacement item too, when you're replacing worn out rear springs)?
And if they are (and I'm going to go ahead and assume in advance of a confirmation it's probably doofuss-y to not replace 'em at the same time as new leafs), is there a reason for going with a greasable bushing kit over stock bushings? In other words, if the OEM bushings last as long as the springs anyways, is there still a point in paying more for greasable ones?
And what I think I'm seeing looking around online is there are greasable shackle kits and greasable spring bushing only kits. Is one or the other an advantage for longevity over plain ol' OEM style?
I'm going to assume the front coils likely aren't much better (if any, and maybe worse, since to my eyes and the level and the measurements the XJ appears almost level).
...but I'll get back to that issue later.
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Right now I am at 4.5" in the rear and 3" up front for lift. What all do I need other then cool springs or spacers do I need?
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Right now I am at 4.5" in the rear and 3" up front for lift. What all do I need other then cool springs or spacers do I need?
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Thanks!
...which pretty much explains why the TJ rides so much better than the Cherokee on any and every surface we've been on.
Okay. So now I move on to the next part of my dilemma.
The rear leafs are shot. There's 150K (almost exactly) on the vehicle.
Since I'm going to pull the leafs, are the rear spring & shackle bushings also pretty standard candidates for replacement (i.e., are they a standard replacement item too, when you're replacing worn out rear springs)?
And if they are (and I'm going to go ahead and assume in advance of a confirmation it's probably doofuss-y to not replace 'em at the same time as new leafs), is there a reason for going with a greasable bushing kit over stock bushings? In other words, if the OEM bushings last as long as the springs anyways, is there still a point in paying more for greasable ones?
And what I think I'm seeing looking around online is there are greasable shackle kits and greasable spring bushing only kits. Is one or the other an advantage for longevity over plain ol' OEM style?
I'm going to assume the front coils likely aren't much better (if any, and maybe worse, since to my eyes and the level and the measurements the XJ appears almost level).
...but I'll get back to that issue later.
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Year: 1999
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So this looks like one of the most popular ones people buy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Wrangle...5ae389&vxp=mtr
How do I adjust it properly after putting it on?
Or will the axle pretty much center itself back out when the stock one is taken off?
I might have my mechanic do it if its a pain because I would rather not do it in the snow.
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Year: 1999
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By the way, I don't go wheeling with my jeep so I dont need anything top of the line.
Just something that will get the job done right for the winter until I can get my Mustang back out.
Just something that will get the job done right for the winter until I can get my Mustang back out.