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Old 11-27-2012, 10:11 PM
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...which pretty much explains why the TJ rides so much better than the Cherokee on any and every surface we've been on.

Okay. So now I move on to the next part of my dilemma.

The rear leafs are shot. There's 150K (almost exactly) on the vehicle.

Since I'm going to pull the leafs, are the rear spring & shackle bushings also pretty standard candidates for replacement (i.e., are they a standard replacement item too, when you're replacing worn out rear springs)?

And if they are (and I'm going to go ahead and assume in advance of a confirmation it's probably doofuss-y to not replace 'em at the same time as new leafs), is there a reason for going with a greasable bushing kit over stock bushings? In other words, if the OEM bushings last as long as the springs anyways, is there still a point in paying more for greasable ones?

And what I think I'm seeing looking around online is there are greasable shackle kits and greasable spring bushing only kits. Is one or the other an advantage for longevity over plain ol' OEM style?

I'm going to assume the front coils likely aren't much better (if any, and maybe worse, since to my eyes and the level and the measurements the XJ appears almost level).

...but I'll get back to that issue later.
Yeah new leafs are definitley in order. They should come with new ungreasable bushings. I think the purpose behind those is to help them move more fluidly. When you go to replace the leaf pull the shackle as well and check the condition of the bushing. Replace it if its crumbly, dry, or broken. Otherwise you will probably be ok. I haven't seen many bushings go bad from over use, mostly they have been contaminated by oil gas etc, or have been old and dry then suddenly used and torn apart. Those measurements are good, unfortunatley unto unusable. To measure ride height you need to measure from the center of the axle tube to the bottom of the fender flare. You can do this easily: measure the diameter of your wheel center-cap, then remove it. Measure from the top of the inside of the center cap hole to the bottom of your fender straight up. Add half the diameter of the center-cap. Front stock measurements are 17" and rear is 17&1/2" and a general way to check is to look at the area between the top of your tire to the bottom of the fender. It should be about the same in front as it is in the rear. I think your tj might ride better because it has coils in the back. Its an 05 right?
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I got my hankook 32's. going for a 4.5' lift. Zone or rough country. need advise ASAP

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I got my hankook 32's. going for a 4.5' lift. Zone or rough country. need advise ASAP
If your gonna go cheap lifts go zone.
There better then rc.
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Originally Posted by odgreen89on35s
If your gonna go cheap lifts go zone.
There better then rc.
Yep. Zoneisbetter over all and worth the money. RC is a decent lift. but its more near the lower part of the "totem pole" its more for beginners who dont go rough trailing...i am actually gettin RC simply cuz i cant afford anything major yet and Idont go on any huge trails very often. I certainly dont try anything i KNOW my jeep cant handle ....yet
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Hey I like my RC lift, I also love my Hankook's. Too bad they don't make them in 35x12.5x15 for when I get new tires
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Hey I like my RC lift, I also love my Hankook's. Too bad they don't make them in 35x12.5x15 for when I get new tires
You may be satisfied with your RC, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it is near the bottom of the list for XJs.
Some people care more about quality, and some care more about cost. That's why there's a broad spectrum of companies.

As for his question, go Zone. Better than RC or Rusty's.
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I got a pair of rancho 3" lift coils for my comanche yesterday, for free ninety nine. I was wondering if someone could tell me how much lift they actually gained with these springs? Also, im ordering the hells creek 1 ton springs for the rear. Now ive heard the ranchos will give between 2 1/4-2 3/4 of actual lift, and that the HC leafs will give 2-3 depending on currently spring crappyness, but id like some first hand knowledge. Any and all concerning these products will help greatly! Thanks
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Originally Posted by noXaddtheM
I got a pair of rancho 3" lift coils for my comanche yesterday, for free ninety nine. I was wondering if someone could tell me how much lift they actually gained with these springs? Also, im ordering the hells creek 1 ton springs for the rear. Now ive heard the ranchos will give between 2 1/4-2 3/4 of actual lift, and that the HC leafs will give 2-3 depending on currently spring crappyness, but id like some first hand knowledge. Any and all concerning these products will help greatly! Thanks
If they are three inch springs they should give at least 3 inches of lift, most companies underrate their springs.
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Thats what i was hoping.. Im not opposed to running spacers or adding shackles to get myself to level out, i just wanted to get a jump on what i might need.
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Originally Posted by noXaddtheM
I got a pair of rancho 3" lift coils for my comanche yesterday, for free ninety nine. I was wondering if someone could tell me how much lift they actually gained with these springs? Also, im ordering the hells creek 1 ton springs for the rear. Now ive heard the ranchos will give between 2 1/4-2 3/4 of actual lift, and that the HC leafs will give 2-3 depending on currently spring crappyness, but id like some first hand knowledge. Any and all concerning these products will help greatly! Thanks
The Ranchos, as he said, should give about 3". For the HC springs, I'm assuming you mean the Metric Tonne springs with a 2205lb payload capacity. They're the same height as standard springs, so you won't gain lift, but it will eliminate your leaf spring sag. I've heard that's usually ~2" depending on your current springs. They also have a different overload leaf setup so you can carry more without sagging.

Bottom line, those 3" coils will probably make the front end higher, but an extended shackle will probably be enough to level it out because the rear was taller when it was new.

At 3", you're looking at shocks, track bar, and brake line relocation. If it's a short bed, I don't know about SYEs. With a long bed, the factory setup is good to ~8".
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Can anyone give me some help with my post (#11804)
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I always recommend the Iron Rock Offroad double shear track bar. A double shear offers added articulation without all the wear on the ends. I had the IRO bar, rolled my XJ, and sold it to another member who is happy with it. Definitely gets the job done right.

To adjust, center your Jeep over the axle, thread your track bar to the right length (to the bracket if it's centered), and put it into the axle side bracket.
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Just bought a 92 xj a week ago. Dont know much about it yet but want to do alot of the work myself. What is the biggest tire I could but on it with no rubbing and without doing any trimming? I plan on putting a 1"-1 1/2" spacer to try to get bigger tires. I want to put a 3" lift on it as well. That said, whats a good lift kit package that will have all the parts I need to do the lift? A link to the lift kit would be great. Again, I want to do it myself so I just want to be sure I order something that has all the parts I need before I take it all apart. Thanks for your help
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Welcome to the forum...

Not trying to be smartass I just don't feel like typing all that.

Click here.
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Then for your second question click here.

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