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12-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesyxj
Yeah I googled it.defnately not general lee wheels.I pity the fool that dont like the A-team van sucka!
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Originally Posted by McCaffrey
Which makes no fricken sense since there's less material.
1. The bigger the tire the higher the price.
2. The bigger the hole the higher the price.
1. The bigger the tire the higher the price.
2. The bigger the hole the higher the price.
12-03-2012, 10:58 PM
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12-04-2012, 12:42 AM
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I have a stock 92 xj and I need new tires. Can i put on 265/75r16 with no trimming or rubbing? Maybe with 1" or 1 1/2" spacers? Eventually I will put a lift on it but I need tires now while save up for a lift. I want to go bigger on the wheels while I save
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12-04-2012, 08:05 AM
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That would sure help.
12-04-2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cheesyxj
I actually get asked that alot.I picked them up years(6-7)ago at a swap for another project,been in my garage ever since.Short answer,Dont know.
If you do,let me know so I can tell people
Originally Posted by mgclark6
Okay, the rim thing has been bothering me. The jeep rim I posted is a 10 spoke. The rim used on the General Lee is also a 10 spoke (American Racing Vector) not a stock dodge rim. The 16 spoke rim you have looks like Western Cyclone II also known as Hurricane and also known as A-Team rims. (Yep, the ones on the ATeam black van).
I could be wrong but the 16 spoke vs 10 spoke was bothering me so I think I'm right on this. You have A-Team rims. I like em!
Originally Posted by cheesyxj
Yeah I googled it.defnately not general lee wheels.I pity the fool that dont like the A-team van sucka!
Originally Posted by mgclark6
You Might even consider painting them red and adding the A-Team stripe on yer Jeep. Err, I guess your jeep is red, you could do the stripe in black.
I seen that at walmart (on black friday) and had to take a pic lol.
12-04-2012, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselD
This guy needs your wheels. He only has 10 spokes. A for effort though and A-TEAM!
I seen that at walmart (on black friday) and had to take a pic lol.
I love it when a plan comes together!
12-04-2012, 08:38 AM
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Never understoood that... Until I googled it... buying a 40x14.50x20 Is around 500 bucks (Bestfriend with f350 with 10 inchs of lift has these) Big tire with a big hole is another machine that has to make them... It's rediculous...
12-04-2012, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mgclark6
That's awesome! Perfect timing. It doesn't look quite as cool as I pictured it in my simple little mind though.
I love it when a plan comes together!
Well, I dont know if that pic shows it, but he did a real ****ty job on it. It could be a lot better. More prep on the paint. A decal instead of a painted stripe (so you can avoid painting your windows). A brush guard, roof lights RED wheels and of course it needed the fin on the back...
12-04-2012, 11:16 AM
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...I just ordered a pair of Crown 4886186AB leaf packs. According to everything I read, these are the Up-Country option replacement springs. I found them for $77 each at Streetside Auto online (and no, I never heard of them before) with free shipping and a coupon for $15 ...so basically $69.50 each leaf pack delivered. That was the best price I could find.
They don't come with new bushings or anything, but I figured I'll wait to see what shape mine are in before I worry about bushings, u-bolts, and shackles and such.
They don't come with new bushings or anything, but I figured I'll wait to see what shape mine are in before I worry about bushings, u-bolts, and shackles and such.
...and yeah, I will take and post before/after pix for height comparison.
Would there be a purpose to doing an AAL like, say, , at this time (while the springs are still brand new)? What effect would this have on the presumably stock height (which might be +1 inch over stock, since these are Upcountry-level packs) that the new spring packs will restore my XJ to?
I've seen a bunch of pictures of made-up/modified leaf packs on various threads now, and a lot of 'em seem to have a bottom spring that isn't attached at the ends (often with an upside down arch). What purpose is that? (It looks like it would just catch on rocks and stuff to me lol, so I figure it must be something beneficial or the hard-core guys wouldn't do it at all.) Is that something that would be good to do at this point (maybe using the 13120 with the arch upside down)? How would it affect the lift?
Also, I've seen several references by people who added shackle relocation kits - like this RC version - mentioning how much that the kit had improved the ride of their XJ's both on and off-road (and that they'd recommend it for the better ride alone). Would this be a good thing to go ahead and do with the new leaf packs? Or just wait? Why?
...I'd also like to know if anyone has any thoughts on the vs. the shocks (the latter are the XJ "police package" replacement shocks: would they even work on a regular Cherokee with an Upcountry leaf pack)? Should I lean one way or the other (and yeah, I decided to spring for slightly better than the OEM shocks I'd previously decided upon)? Or any other budget shock recommendations? (I'm only going to replace the rear shocks at this time ...and that only after I take the rear off and examine them.)
...as always, TIA.
12-04-2012, 11:19 AM
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Okay, the leaf packs are shipped and in FedEx tracking, so they should be here in the next day or so. Before I put them on though, I wonder if I should do any modifications to the new packs when they get here, and before I put 'em on the XJ.
...and yeah, I will take and post before/after pix for height comparison.
Would there be a purpose to doing an AAL like, say, the Pro Comp 13120, at this time (while the springs are still brand new)? What effect would this have on the presumably stock height (which might be +1 inch over stock, since these are Upcountry-level packs) that the new spring packs will restore my XJ to?
I've seen a bunch of pictures of made-up/modified leaf packs on various threads now, and a lot of 'em seem to have a bottom spring that isn't attached at the ends (often with an upside down arch). What purpose is that? (It looks like it would just catch on rocks and stuff to me lol, so I figure it must be something beneficial or the hard-core guys wouldn't do it at all.) Is that something that would be good to do at this point (maybe using the 13120 with the arch upside down)? How would it affect the lift?
Also, I've seen several references by people who added shackle relocation kits - like this RC version - mentioning how much that the kit had improved the ride of their XJ's both on and off-road (and that they'd recommend it for the better ride alone). Would this be a good thing to go ahead and do with the new leaf packs? Or just wait? Why?
...I'd also like to know if anyone has any thoughts on the KYB Gas-a-just vs. the Monroe Severe Service shocks (the latter are the XJ "police package" replacement shocks: would they even work on a regular Cherokee with an Upcountry leaf pack)? Should I lean one way or the other (and yeah, I decided to spring for slightly better than the OEM shocks I'd previously decided upon)? Or any other budget shock recommendations? (I'm only going to replace the rear shocks at this time ...and that only after I take the rear off and examine them.)
...as always, TIA.
...and yeah, I will take and post before/after pix for height comparison.
Would there be a purpose to doing an AAL like, say, the Pro Comp 13120, at this time (while the springs are still brand new)? What effect would this have on the presumably stock height (which might be +1 inch over stock, since these are Upcountry-level packs) that the new spring packs will restore my XJ to?
I've seen a bunch of pictures of made-up/modified leaf packs on various threads now, and a lot of 'em seem to have a bottom spring that isn't attached at the ends (often with an upside down arch). What purpose is that? (It looks like it would just catch on rocks and stuff to me lol, so I figure it must be something beneficial or the hard-core guys wouldn't do it at all.) Is that something that would be good to do at this point (maybe using the 13120 with the arch upside down)? How would it affect the lift?
Also, I've seen several references by people who added shackle relocation kits - like this RC version - mentioning how much that the kit had improved the ride of their XJ's both on and off-road (and that they'd recommend it for the better ride alone). Would this be a good thing to go ahead and do with the new leaf packs? Or just wait? Why?
...I'd also like to know if anyone has any thoughts on the KYB Gas-a-just vs. the Monroe Severe Service shocks (the latter are the XJ "police package" replacement shocks: would they even work on a regular Cherokee with an Upcountry leaf pack)? Should I lean one way or the other (and yeah, I decided to spring for slightly better than the OEM shocks I'd previously decided upon)? Or any other budget shock recommendations? (I'm only going to replace the rear shocks at this time ...and that only after I take the rear off and examine them.)
...as always, TIA.
The only time you need Shackle relocation brackets is if your shackle angle is bad. That usually comes with lift springs.
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I didn't actually want taller spring packs per se, just "non-worn-out" (i.e., new) ones ...as mine are worn out, with 150K on the odo ...and I went with the heavy-duty-ist OEM [new] ones which I could find at a good price ...figuring that new HD replacements would also last the longest before they needed replaced: I'm planning on keeping the XJ for a couple of hundred thousand plus more miles, and springs (like shocks) are "standard replacement" items when you get out to that many miles ...the ones on it when I bought it at 143K were probably "gone" 50K ago (which I didn't really know until it was pointed out to me when I asked, here ...I originally thought it was just crappy worn-out factory shocks: guess not).
And so I wanted replacements to be at OEM height. Mine are over an inch under factory in the back in their worn-out condition now, so even back-to-factory spec OEM height is going to "lift it" an inch plus to me, and the Upcountry pack should add an inch to that ...but the replacement is due to the crappy ride, not an "I want more height" thing (my wife and I are short: even the current height ain't an issue lol).
I was willing to go the "little bit more" of the UC height though (well, after I read what a UC pkg was).
But after reading the various forums more than just a little (and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing in my case lol: it just makes me wonder even more about stuff, which is why I'm asking peeps who have a LOT of knowledge AND experience) after ordering the new leaf packs, I wondered 1) if there were "ride-ability" benefits to the shackle relocation kit, and 2) if the little AAL kit might make the new OEM leaf packs that are on their way last longer despite any additional height they - might??? - add.
...so asking about 'em has nothing to do with wanting more height. In my case. Because I can live with some additional height if there are other benefits (as noted). It's just the way I roll LOL.
...thanks for letting me clear that up.
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12-04-2012, 03:16 PM
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Learning is a work in progress, lol.
I didn't actually want taller spring packs per se, just "non-worn-out" (i.e., new) ones ...as mine are worn out, with 150K on the odo ...and I went with the heavy-duty-ist OEM [new] ones which I could find at a good price ...figuring that new HD replacements would also last the longest before they needed replaced: I'm planning on keeping the XJ for a couple of hundred thousand plus more miles, and springs (like shocks) are "standard replacement" items when you get out to that many miles ...the ones on it when I bought it at 143K were probably "gone" 50K ago (which I didn't really know until it was pointed out to me when I asked, here ...I originally thought it was just crappy worn-out factory shocks: guess not).
And so I wanted replacements to be at OEM height. Mine are over an inch under factory in the back in their worn-out condition now, so even back-to-factory spec OEM height is going to "lift it" an inch plus to me, and the Upcountry pack should add an inch to that ...but the replacement is due to the crappy ride, not an "I want more height" thing (my wife and I are short: even the current height ain't an issue lol).
I was willing to go the "little bit more" of the UC height though (well, after I read what a UC pkg was).
But after reading the various forums more than just a little (and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing in my case lol: it just makes me wonder even more about stuff, which is why I'm asking peeps who have a LOT of knowledge AND experience) after ordering the new leaf packs, I wondered 1) if there were "ride-ability" benefits to the shackle relocation kit, and 2) if the little AAL kit might make the new OEM leaf packs that are on their way last longer despite any additional height they - might??? - add.
...so asking about 'em has nothing to do with wanting more height. In my case. Because I can live with some additional height if there are other benefits (as noted). It's just the way I roll LOL.
...thanks for letting me clear that up.
I didn't actually want taller spring packs per se, just "non-worn-out" (i.e., new) ones ...as mine are worn out, with 150K on the odo ...and I went with the heavy-duty-ist OEM [new] ones which I could find at a good price ...figuring that new HD replacements would also last the longest before they needed replaced: I'm planning on keeping the XJ for a couple of hundred thousand plus more miles, and springs (like shocks) are "standard replacement" items when you get out to that many miles ...the ones on it when I bought it at 143K were probably "gone" 50K ago (which I didn't really know until it was pointed out to me when I asked, here ...I originally thought it was just crappy worn-out factory shocks: guess not).
And so I wanted replacements to be at OEM height. Mine are over an inch under factory in the back in their worn-out condition now, so even back-to-factory spec OEM height is going to "lift it" an inch plus to me, and the Upcountry pack should add an inch to that ...but the replacement is due to the crappy ride, not an "I want more height" thing (my wife and I are short: even the current height ain't an issue lol).
I was willing to go the "little bit more" of the UC height though (well, after I read what a UC pkg was).
But after reading the various forums more than just a little (and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing in my case lol: it just makes me wonder even more about stuff, which is why I'm asking peeps who have a LOT of knowledge AND experience) after ordering the new leaf packs, I wondered 1) if there were "ride-ability" benefits to the shackle relocation kit, and 2) if the little AAL kit might make the new OEM leaf packs that are on their way last longer despite any additional height they - might??? - add.
...so asking about 'em has nothing to do with wanting more height. In my case. Because I can live with some additional height if there are other benefits (as noted). It's just the way I roll LOL.
...thanks for letting me clear that up.
12-04-2012, 03:36 PM
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...do you know why some people put them in with the arch "upside down" though? (I can find a picture of one if it isn't clear what I'm trying to describe.)
...if an AAL kit wouldn't be adding to the longevity (i.e., of a factory new leaf pack), I'm not really interested in it, I think.