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Old 10-22-2011 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TribalTrailRunner
I just recently bought an already lifted XJ with 6.5" Rusty's long arm suspension. After reading this and seeing the pictures I am extremely afraid to drive it. Really sucks because I just changed the tie rod ends and had it alligned this past week! Can I use another manufacturer's track bar with this lift? It would definitely make me feel a lot safer anyway. Glad nobody got hurt or killed, especially whoever was driving the TJ in the link attached to this thread.
Originally Posted by PingPong
Look into the Rock Krawler Bomb proof trac bar and mount.. solid links.
I have a lot of Rusty's parts and have been pleased with them.
I do agree that the Rock Krawler TB is better than Rusty's. I was going to get the RK bar, but I got a killer deal on a RC bar from a friend.
Old 10-24-2011 | 12:14 AM
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And NONE of yor products have EVER failed after three years of use?
Just wondering....

We have had 3 return authorizations in 3 years.

none of the products that failed are items that I currently sell. All designs were re-designed because if 1 Item fails that is 1 too many!

I have had instances where customers did not install parts properly and damaged them because of that. I still fixed their mistakes free of charge.

I also Have 1 control arm failure that was an older design that was called in today after 3 years of use. The customer is getting new arms free of charge.

No I cant say I have never had a part fail. But I can say that we hold ourselves to a level of responsibility for the parts we sell.

Families ride in jeeps.....

Enough said.
Old 10-24-2011 | 05:16 AM
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ANdy it is awesome to see a stand up vendor who even warranties installer items. I also think that after 3yrs.. to only have 3 issues, says a lot about your fab work, and products.


To all other users of offroad products.... Things break and wear out. That is why you should inspect your rig after every trip, and at every oil change. I know sounds like a PITA, but it is your responsibility to do it. I am sure there were signs for the weld was failing before it actually failed.
Old 10-24-2011 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PingPong
ANdy it is awesome to see a stand up vendor who even warranties installer items. I also think that after 3yrs.. to only have 3 issues, says a lot about your fab work, and products.


To all other users of offroad products.... Things break and wear out. That is why you should inspect your rig after every trip, and at every oil change. I know sounds like a PITA, but it is your responsibility to do it. I am sure there were signs for the weld was failing before it actually failed.

i agree with EVERY part of your statement....well put.
Old 10-24-2011 | 08:42 AM
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My IRO trackbar doesnt even have a piece like that on it (one solid piece).. glad you didnt get hurt! I have the rustys steering and I love it... kinda glad I went with the IRO lift though
Old 10-24-2011 | 09:06 AM
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I have ironman control arms and a rusty's track bar. I'm pretty confident that if I lost the track bar my control arms would save me. My 96 had 4" of lift no shocks no swaybar and a worn track bar. I drove it like that for 5 months, she was fun.
Old 10-24-2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joetotheizzo3
I have ironman control arms and a rusty's track bar. I'm pretty confident that if I lost the track bar my control arms would save me. My 96 had 4" of lift no shocks no swaybar and a worn track bar. I drove it like that for 5 months, she was fun.
Control arms won't save you. I was able
To move my steering wheel left to right while driving and the wheel would turn a full 180 degrees before making a real turn. Also losing control at 25 mph...don't think their arms are that good
Old 10-24-2011 | 10:31 AM
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i have this same trac bar, i wonder if i should swap it out...
Old 10-24-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joetotheizzo3
I have ironman control arms and a rusty's track bar. I'm pretty confident that if I lost the track bar my control arms would save me. My 96 had 4" of lift no shocks no swaybar and a worn track bar. I drove it like that for 5 months, she was fun.
Sound more like just plain China instead of China, Maine
Old 10-24-2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Metlic53
i have this same trac bar, i wonder if i should swap it out...
Obviously they aren't safe...
Old 10-24-2011 | 12:04 PM
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I guess I am just excited about the ironman stuff after having rubicon express stuff fail so miserably. Bushings were shot after 2 weeks! Thinking back that jeep was terrifying.
Old 10-24-2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie_K
REALLY? Wow.... I think you better look at the pic again... If this looks like normal wear and tear to you... maybe you should keep your vehicles off public roads for the safety of others...

I worked in the welding industry for 15 years. That weld should never have passed quality control. Just from the angle of the picture I can see that NONE of the threaded bushing had melted into the weld pool.
I wonder if there is even a quality control when you see something like that.
Old 10-24-2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie_K
could've been the same end result regardles... wherever your track bar breaks, there is no longer anything centering your axle under your vehicle, and you're lucky to bring it to a stop without some killing someone.
Absolutely. I'm not under rating the significance of a track bar failure. You are correct. If it breaks anywhere, bad things are going to happen.

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WTF is the difference? They both are complete failures of the track bar. Had he been in the same position as the wrangler in that link, this failure would have had the same outcome. I dont "feel" for a company that markets and sells a critical component like this, labeled as heavy duty, that is considerably undersized and (as we can see from this thread) not of high quality. To be honest, while I feel that Rusty's equipment is garbage along with everyone I wheel with, I think it is irresponsible for ANY company to sell an aftermarket track bar with a TRE or not make changes to a design with known failure problems. (Yes I am aware that the problem in this thread is neither a TRE failure or even a bar with a TRE)
Well the difference is that they don't physically manufacture the TRE. So anyone could have had that issue with a standard bar. "feel", for lack of a better word, is for the fact that they get the grief from THAT TJ failure. Now this one is a completely different issue. A weld should never fail as it did there. So THIS example is absolutely deserving of criticism. I also realize this is not a TRE type connection.
Old 10-24-2011 | 02:04 PM
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their TREs are known to fail at the threaded section. likely because of a combination of cheap TRE and undersized TRE. IMO, just because they dont make the TRE themselves doesnt mean that they are responsible for using it on their bar. It would be one thing if that was the only case, but bending and breaking on the shank of the TRE is a known problem with the bar...
Old 10-24-2011 | 03:01 PM
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see but there it is again, "their TRE" when it's not theirs. It's the same exact size as stock. So its the SAME joint you buy at any retail parts store. We all know MOOG and Duralast come from the same production line. I'm just stating that it's obnoxious when someone brings up that TJ again. The bar did not fail. (period)

still though, I'm not supporting Rusty's parts. The b*tch that works up there is a pain on the phone, and they're just not that great of parts.



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