Broken tap - IRO hack n tap
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From: South Shore of Long Island
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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Broken tap - IRO hack n tap
Well..... Everything was going really well. It was a cool 60 degrees, I had all morning to get it done, everything was awesome. Removed the old driveshaft. Measured and cut the output shaft was no problem. I used the jig to perfectly drill through the (perfectly cut) shaft. Flawless..... Then I took my special tap and my special cutting oil. I was soooooo nervous about breaking the drill bit or tap. I carefull gave the tap a quarter turn and then backed it out, cleaned off, dipped in fresh cutting oil and repeated. I was about halfway done with the tapping part and snap. It got a little tight going in but nothing too bad. *******~€]*|+<!]>_*.!,*<+[%}*#+!!!!!!
Help! What are your go to ways to fix this?
Walton extractor?
Torch then Walton extractor?
Upside down air can (freeze) and then tap with hardened chisel and hammer?
Help! What are your go to ways to fix this?
Walton extractor?
Torch then Walton extractor?
Upside down air can (freeze) and then tap with hardened chisel and hammer?
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Well..... Everything was going really well. It was a cool 60 degrees, I had all morning to get it done, everything was awesome. Removed the old driveshaft. Measured and cut the output shaft was no problem. I used the jig to perfectly drill through the (perfectly cut) shaft. Flawless..... Then I took my special tap and my special cutting oil. I was soooooo nervous about breaking the drill bit or tap. I carefull gave the tap a quarter turn and then backed it out, cleaned off, dipped in fresh cutting oil and repeated. I was about halfway done with the tapping part and snap. It got a little tight going in but nothing too bad. *******~€]*|+<!]>_*.!,*<+[%}*#+!!!!!!
Help! What are your go to ways to fix this?
Walton extractor?
Torch then Walton extractor?
Upside down air can (freeze) and then tap with hardened chisel and hammer?
Help! What are your go to ways to fix this?
Walton extractor?
Torch then Walton extractor?
Upside down air can (freeze) and then tap with hardened chisel and hammer?
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Yeah the transfer case is on the jeep. The broken tap is pretty much flush with the output shaft on the transfer case. I guess I'll try to torch it a little and try to tap it loose with a punch. I can't find any quality extractors at ace/lowes/sears/Home Depot.
I really felt good about this whole project, like I really had gotten good at taking on bigger projects.
I really felt good about this whole project, like I really had gotten good at taking on bigger projects.
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Yeah the transfer case is on the jeep. The broken tap is pretty much flush with the output shaft on the transfer case. I guess I'll try to torch it a little and try to tap it loose with a punch. I can't find any quality extractors at ace/lowes/sears/Home Depot.
I really felt good about this whole project, like I really had gotten good at taking on bigger projects.
I really felt good about this whole project, like I really had gotten good at taking on bigger projects.
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From: South Shore of Long Island
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You won't find an extractor like that locally, an industrial tool and supply place such as Grainger would be your best bet, or maybe you could call around to local machine shops or a tool rental place to see if they have one you could borrow/rent...and don't let it get you down, it happens to the best of us. Were you using a flat bottom tap? Also, try extracting without heat first, it may come out, if it gives you issues, then heat the shaft only, as close to the end with the broken tap as possible, and don't get it red hot, just heat it up as evenly as you can, and try tapping out with a punch again.
Quick question though. When I apply the heat should I heat the output shaft or should I try to just head the broken tap as best I can?
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From: South Shore of Long Island
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Ya know for about 2 seconds I attempted that with my leatherman but it started flexing a little so I stopped (didn't want to ruin the leatherman) but maybe I can find a an actual stronger pair of pliers as give that a shot.
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Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Gotta make sacrifices some times for the greater causes...
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I know just the place to bring it to. It's an engine/machine shop but the damn thing broke at 4:45 yesterday afternoon. So now I'm stuck till early Monday morning.
Quick question though. When I apply the heat should I heat the output shaft or should I try to just head the broken tap as best I can?
Quick question though. When I apply the heat should I heat the output shaft or should I try to just head the broken tap as best I can?
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
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Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
I got mine out with a small chisel and hammer with light taps in a circular motion it slowly spun out enough to spin out with pliers . I did a sye on my next one less aggravation.
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
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Yeah, this is the recommended method in my mind....you don't want to jam anything else up in there that doesn't belong, if you break off plier tips or push metal from the threads you just cut deeper in there, it's going to make extraction that much harder...
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
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