Dangerous Wandering Problem
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Year: 1999
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Dangerous Wandering Problem
Hey guys, It's been awhile since I've legitimately logged onto here. I just got my next Cherokee and am having some strange problems with it. First off here are some of the specs: 4" rubicon Express lift, Old man emu shocks and SS, Adjustable track bar, Short arms and sway bar discos. It's also got 33's and 2 inch spacers. I've got two major problems with the jeep, the first being the most serious. When I'm driving the jeep and let off the gas at ANY point the jeep wants to dart to the right. I've also got to hold the wheel at an angle to keep it going strait. the tires aren't worn funny, it doesn't exhibit any other problems but it wanders like all hell. Ive checked the ball joints and all the joints in the steering and cant find any looseness in any of them, the axle appears pretty centered on the jeep and when I try to turn the wheel sitting still with it off the tires almost immediately respond. So I don't know if it could be caster or possibly the steering box? I've thought about taking out the electric fan and adjusting the worm gear on top of the steering box but I've also read that it could worsen the problem. The track bar doesn't appear to be loose but the only two things I could be think that could be causing this would be the steering box and caster on the LCA's. I have to DD this all winter so any ideas/help would be appreciated guys. I'd like to upload some pictures but the mobile app doesn't allow me to or post new threads? Maybe I can figure that out and get some pics up here shortly. Thanks in advance for any help, I REALLY need to get this figured out!
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I'm not sure of them yet, I currently need to get some money rolling in before I can even get it checked. I just spent all the extra cash I have on fixing the rear wheel bearings.
That's what I've been thinking but haven't found a way to determine what the actual alligment angles are. I can do an alignment in my drive way if its just toe but never messed with caster before. Any suggestions? or just take it somewhere and have it checked?
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It does sound like it could be alignment issue since it pulls to one side. If it wandered all over then I might say caster. Another thought might be the tires. If one had a broken belt or defect it could create a pulling situation. Also, have you checked your caliper for dragging?
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Worn front bearing, tire pressure, dry u joint.
How did you check the ball joints? Checking the steering box, track bar, etc... should be done with the weight of the jeep on the tires.
And what the others have said.
Also check brakes for heat after a drive. Could have one sticking.
How did you check the ball joints? Checking the steering box, track bar, etc... should be done with the weight of the jeep on the tires.
And what the others have said.
Also check brakes for heat after a drive. Could have one sticking.
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From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
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^ Agree, sticking brake can cause the dart to right when letting off gas.
And caster/toe must be off.
A $5 angle finder can come very close at determining the caster, use this link for how-to. http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAlignment.htm
Some shops like Tread Quarters will give you an alignment printout for free. Tell them you do not want them to make an adjustment, just need a printout.
This is also handy, 'stringing a vehicle'.
http://www.circletrack.com/chassiste...ring_your_car/
And caster/toe must be off.
A $5 angle finder can come very close at determining the caster, use this link for how-to. http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAlignment.htm
Some shops like Tread Quarters will give you an alignment printout for free. Tell them you do not want them to make an adjustment, just need a printout.
This is also handy, 'stringing a vehicle'.
http://www.circletrack.com/chassiste...ring_your_car/
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Worn front bearing, tire pressure, dry u joint.
How did you check the ball joints? Checking the steering box, track bar, etc... should be done with the weight of the jeep on the tires.
And what the others have said.
Also check brakes for heat after a drive. Could have one sticking.
How did you check the ball joints? Checking the steering box, track bar, etc... should be done with the weight of the jeep on the tires.
And what the others have said.
Also check brakes for heat after a drive. Could have one sticking.
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It does sound like it could be alignment issue since it pulls to one side. If it wandered all over then I might say caster. Another thought might be the tires. If one had a broken belt or defect it could create a pulling situation. Also, have you checked your caliper for dragging?
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Alright guys I just figured I'd post here and let everyone know what I've found, It turns out the caster is defiantly off and I took a closer look at the wheels, they only have wheel weights on the outside of the rims. I believe the combination of the two (plus my first decent distance trip) in the jeep has defiantly narrowed down my search. Thanks again for all the input guys!
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