My cooling system
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My cooling system
Ok,so I put on the big hood vents.
A Mishimoto radiator.
Mishimoto triple fans.
Flowkooler water pump.
High flow thermostat housing.
Mishimoto 180 degree thermostat.
Mishimoto silicone hoses.
It still runs hit with the air on.
It still gets too hot sitting in a drive thru.
Hell,I don't know what else to do.
About $1200 worth of stuff,and I swear it ran cooler before I did any of this.
Any thoughts?
A Mishimoto radiator.
Mishimoto triple fans.
Flowkooler water pump.
High flow thermostat housing.
Mishimoto 180 degree thermostat.
Mishimoto silicone hoses.
It still runs hit with the air on.
It still gets too hot sitting in a drive thru.
Hell,I don't know what else to do.
About $1200 worth of stuff,and I swear it ran cooler before I did any of this.
Any thoughts?
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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It probably ran cooler $1200 ago. First, they just run hot. 210 is the normal operating temperature. However, if the stock system is all working correctly, it will do just fine in Phoenix in the summer sitting in traffic. At least, that's what some of our Phoenix members have said.
BTW, the thermostat is a mistake. A cooler thermostat does NOT make the engine run cooler. A t-stat does not control the operating temperature. It only controls how soon the t-stat opens.
If it were my Jeep, I'd start by losing that high flow pump and incorrect T-stat. The coolant has to stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat. A high flow pump is probably moving it through too fast. It might make sense in a race engine with an oversized radiator.
Then see what you have, and go from there.
EDIT : I made a big boo boo! I left out a very important word. It should have been, "A cooler thermostat does NOT make the engine run cooler"
NOT!! NOT!!
BTW, the thermostat is a mistake. A cooler thermostat does NOT make the engine run cooler. A t-stat does not control the operating temperature. It only controls how soon the t-stat opens.
If it were my Jeep, I'd start by losing that high flow pump and incorrect T-stat. The coolant has to stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat. A high flow pump is probably moving it through too fast. It might make sense in a race engine with an oversized radiator.
Then see what you have, and go from there.
EDIT : I made a big boo boo! I left out a very important word. It should have been, "A cooler thermostat does NOT make the engine run cooler"
NOT!! NOT!!
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It probably ran cooler $1200 ago. First, they just run hot. 210 is the normal operating temperature. However, if the stock system is all working correctly, it will do just fine in Phoenix in the summer sitting in traffic. At least, that's what some of our Phoenix members have said.
BTW, the thermostat is a mistake. A cooler thermostat does make the engine run cooler. A t-stat does not control the operating temperature. It only controls how soon the t-stat opens.
If it were my Jeep, I'd start by losing that high flow pump and incorrect T-stat. The coolant has to stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat. A high flow pump is probably moving it through too fast. It might make sense in a race engine with an oversized radiator.
Then see what you have, and go from there.
BTW, the thermostat is a mistake. A cooler thermostat does make the engine run cooler. A t-stat does not control the operating temperature. It only controls how soon the t-stat opens.
If it were my Jeep, I'd start by losing that high flow pump and incorrect T-stat. The coolant has to stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat. A high flow pump is probably moving it through too fast. It might make sense in a race engine with an oversized radiator.
Then see what you have, and go from there.
It was $350.
Supposed to be 50% bigger with 200% more flow.
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So you had a overheating issue before changing out for all those parts? What overheating symptoms were you having? Thing is as BlueRidgeMark said an OEM cooling system if working correctly does fine. Seems to me you could have a coolant flow issue.
So you had a overheating issue before changing out for all those parts? What overheating symptoms were you having? Thing is as BlueRidgeMark said an OEM cooling system if working correctly does fine. Seems to me you could have a coolant flow issue.
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And, how are you determining "running hot"?
And, how are you determining "running hot"?
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If I use the air,it will run hot,I mean up to boiling.
Even going down the highway with all three fans running.
It'll get up to 225.Cut off the air and it'll drop back down.
I'm no "mechanic",but I've always liked to use blue rtv and make a nice blue bead you can see,on water pumps,thermostats,etc.
Do you think it's possible that I used too much,and some might be blocking the flow?
Even going down the highway with all three fans running.
It'll get up to 225.Cut off the air and it'll drop back down.
I'm no "mechanic",but I've always liked to use blue rtv and make a nice blue bead you can see,on water pumps,thermostats,etc.
Do you think it's possible that I used too much,and some might be blocking the flow?
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The triple fans and the radiator are likely what's causing your cooling issues. There have been several threads about people having issues with a triple e fan setup and an aftermarket 2 or 3 core radiator. Replace all of that with a Spectra factory replacement radiator and a put the clutch fan back on with a fan clutch for a 4 cyl XJ and a factory e fan on the other side, your cooling issues will go away if everything is done properly.
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The triple fans and the radiator are likely what's causing your cooling issues. There have several threads about people having issues with a triple e fan setup and an aftermarket 2 or 3 core radiator. Replace all of that with a Spectra factory replacement radiator and a put the clutch fan back on with a fan clutch for a 4 cyl XJ and a factory e fan on the other side, your cooling issues will go away if everything is done properly.
Yep.
I suspect the e-fan setup impedes the air flow at highway speeds. Can't prove it, but from reading many threads like yours, it looks that way to me.
There is something very weird about your Jeep running that hot when the AC is on, though.
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There have been quite a few threads where XJ owners have "upgraded" their cooling systems only to find it didn't cure their overheating issue or it actually created one where none existed.
If you have an overheating problem you need to find out why before "firing the parts cannon".
If you have an overheating problem you need to find out why before "firing the parts cannon".