Need input from Lunchbox Locker users that live in SNOWY areas.
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From: Austintown, OH
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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Need input from Lunchbox Locker users that live in SNOWY areas.
So I've been chewing on this for a while now and been doing research for a coulee weeks as well. I've been wanting to put a lunchbox locker in either the front or rear of my 2000 but not both. Reason being that I have the 242 t-case, D-30 27 spline and 8.25 29 spline and would still like to use my Full-Time option. I've read where having one in the front only and driving in snow with it in 4wd makes it still want to go straight and a little harder to handle driving. Snow is my biggest IF factor right now. I live in NE Ohio and we get a decent amount here. I still go on trail on occasion and yes this is my DD as well. So for those of you who live in snowy areas and have lunchbox lockers in either the front or rear, what is it like? Handling wise, using Full-Time, and anything else I should know. Money is kinda tight so that's why a lunchbox locker is what I'm leaning towards at the moment. I know selectable would be the way to go but would be out of my budget. Most of what I am finding on this forum as well as others mostly just talks about daily driving and not much of how it handles while in snow and such.
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From: Mercer County, NJ
Year: 2001
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So I've been chewing on this for a while now and been doing research for a coulee weeks as well. I've been wanting to put a lunchbox locker in either the front or rear of my 2000 but not both. Reason being that I have the 242 t-case, D-30 27 spline and 8.25 29 spline and would still like to use my Full-Time option. I've read where having one in the front only and driving in snow with it in 4wd makes it still want to go straight and a little harder to handle driving. Snow is my biggest IF factor right now. I live in NE Ohio and we get a decent amount here. I still go on trail on occasion and yes this is my DD as well. So for those of you who live in snowy areas and have lunchbox lockers in either the front or rear, what is it like? Handling wise, using Full-Time, and anything else I should know. Money is kinda tight so that's why a lunchbox locker is what I'm leaning towards at the moment. I know selectable would be the way to go but would be out of my budget. Most of what I am finding on this forum as well as others mostly just talks about daily driving and not much of how it handles while in snow and such.
Honestly, you're gonna get a buttload of different opinions. Some people in snowy areas will contest that its not an issue. Some will say its a death sentence. Lunchbox lockers are something you'll learn to drive with. Bur if you have a 242, your best bet is a selectable one of front and a LS in the rear. Automatic lockers upfront, iirc, negates a 242s ability. Hence getting a selctable. I live in the NE. I want a rear locker as well but I'm holding out until I can get gears and a good LS one or an Aussie. Others will chime in.
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Honestly, you're gonna get a buttload of different opinions. Some people in snowy areas will contest that its not an issue. Some will say its a death sentence. Lunchbox lockers are something you'll learn to drive with. Bur if you have a 242, your best bet is a selectable one of front and a LS in the rear. Automatic lockers upfront, iirc, negates a 242s ability. Hence getting a selctable. I live in the NE. I want a rear locker as well but I'm holding out until I can get gears and a good LS one or an Aussie. Others will chime in.
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From: schenectady, NY
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
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I have a 242 and lunchbox in both front and rear, live in ny we get some decent snow and it isn't that bad. Like the other post you learn to drive with it. I don't really use 4x4 driving main roads and when I do I am going slow enough to where if it gets out of sorts I can correct it easily.
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From: Austintown, OH
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I have a 242 and lunchbox in both front and rear, live in ny we get some decent snow and it isn't that bad. Like the other post you learn to drive with it. I don't really use 4x4 driving main roads and when I do I am going slow enough to where if it gets out of sorts I can correct it easily.
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We don't recommend using the full-time option with auto lockers because the case transfers power when it feels a wheel slipping. An auto locker can make the case think a wheel is slipping, then the case will divert power front and rear unpredictably, making the vehicle almost impossible to drive.
For snowy areas I recommend a rear locker first, or a front locker if you don't use 4WD at highway speeds.
For snowy areas I recommend a rear locker first, or a front locker if you don't use 4WD at highway speeds.
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From: Austintown, OH
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We don't recommend using the full-time option with auto lockers because the case transfers power when it feels a wheel slipping. An auto locker can make the case think a wheel is slipping, then the case will divert power front and rear unpredictably, making the vehicle almost impossible to drive. For snowy areas I recommend a rear locker first, or a front locker if you don't use 4WD at highway speeds.
So you're saying you don't recommend using full-time at all with one in either the rear or front? Or both?
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From: Montana
Year: 1999
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I've got a spartan in the rear end, and I live in Montana. Plenty of icy/snowy roads. Like others have said, you get used to it. I DD my jeep and it does just fine. If you have any other specific questions, feel free to PM me.
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From: Edmonton AB Canada
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Up here in Alberta we will have snow for 8 months in a year and the roads are literally ice roads not pavement anymore during 6 of those months, I've got a spartan in my cry. 8.25 and mud tires also my transfer case is a 231, the jeep is my daily. you have to be careful accelerating in turns as the rear will lock up and spin ya around, but in my opinion it is manageable and I really don't have any difficulties with it. For a daily driver in possible ice/snow conditions I would recommend a rear locker over a front because when you are turning and you accelerate neither front tire will be able to turn less or more distance than the other, which will cause them to break traction and render turning the wheel useless and you will propel forward. It's like locking up the front brakes and turning the wheel; you will not turn. In 2wd the front locker shouldn't give you problems, just constant popping, but if you are running a 242 and plan on using full time a rear would still be optimal as you will still have the front wheels pulling should the rears break traction and slip out on you. Remember that with a lunchbox the axle will only lock up when torque is applied to that axle.
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From: Dunedin FL
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Disregard anything I said. The binding I was feeling was a badly welded rear diff...the PO was full of shift when he said this cherokee had lockrights front and rear!
Last edited by Joshua White; 12-22-2015 at 01:18 AM.
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From: Monett, MO.
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All it really amounts to is learning to drive with one, I have full case auto lockers front/rear in mine and have no issues.
This reminds of the recent thread of how would anyone drive without ABS brakes.
This reminds of the recent thread of how would anyone drive without ABS brakes.
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From: Dunedin FL
Year: 1999
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