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HD Offroad Engineering, has both an adds-lift and original ride height relocation unit. The one that adds lift purely bolts on. The no-lift style requires you to do some work with a grinder: the original boxes get removed.
Thanks, Salad. Those are the ones I've been looking at. I'm glad the ones that add a little lift are direct bolt on, cause my welding skills are non-existent.
Thanks, Salad. Those are the ones I've been looking at. I'm glad the ones that add a little lift are direct bolt on, cause my welding skills are non-existent.
Sorry, I should have elaborated. The no-lift ones are bolt-in as well. You just have to trim first. There's no welding at all. Check out the installation instructions for both and see what you're confortable with
Sorry, I should have elaborated. The no-lift ones are bolt-in as well. You just have to trim first. There's no welding at all. Check out the installation instructions for both and see what you're confortable with
I actually knew that. What I actually meant was that I don't want to cut the jeep up. At least not yet. I'm looking for the regular SRB's giving a little bit of lift to compensate for the leafs settling. Not to mention, good shackle angle. Mostly just doing some planning at the moment. Still need to find the time, and the extra hands to get my lift installed. As well as get some wheels and tires. Was hoping to wait for a solid sale, but I'm starting to get too antsy.
Any recommendations on Shackle relocation brackets?
I like the Liquid Iron Industries brackets. They are shorter lengthwise and have a slight angle that allows for more up travel if you need it. They will add about .5" on top of the 1" the boomerang shackles add, so you should have that planned out with your spring pack choice.
I like the Liquid Iron Industries brackets. They are shorter lengthwise and have a slight angle that allows for more up travel if you need it. They will add about .5" on top of the 1" the boomerang shackles add, so you should have that planned out with your spring pack choice.
So you're sitting at about 4.5"? I'm not trying to go that high. At least not yet.
So you're sitting at about 4.5"? I'm not trying to go that high. At least not yet.
Nah it's around 4", but I understand cause I was originally planning on staying around 3-3.5, but with the parts I wanted, it put me at 4" so I just put some .75" spacers in the front and all is well.
I got the last of the 2.5" OME/JKS/DPG parts in yesterday. The ZJ tie for and drag link is ready to go on with it. While spraying down my boots with on blaster I realized that I'm replacing just about to every suspension component except control arms. Mine probably need new bushings at a minimum. Does anyone have an opinion on whether I'll see any on-road benefit from going with B Lee adjustable lowers and RE adjustable uppers? I don't do much wheeling besides beginner trails and roads around Moab and maybe some mud in the mountains.
As far as lift, I'm going 2.5" to start. I have the 242 tc. If I get driveline vibes and install an SYE and driveshaft, I'll go to 3.5". It's a matter of putting the removed leaf back in the rear and ordering taller front springs.
I got the last of the 2.5" OME/JKS/DPG parts in yesterday. The ZJ tie for and drag link is ready to go on with it. While spraying down my boots with on blaster I realized that I'm replacing just about to every suspension component except control arms. Mine probably need new bushings at a minimum. Does anyone have an opinion on whether I'll see any on-road benefit from going with B Lee adjustable lowers and RE adjustable uppers? I don't do much wheeling besides beginner trails and roads around Moab and maybe some mud in the mountains.
As far as lift, I'm going 2.5" to start. I have the 242 tc. If I get driveline vibes and install an SYE and driveshaft, I'll go to 3.5". It's a matter of putting the removed leaf back in the rear and ordering taller front springs.
Thanks.
what coils and shocks came with the package you ordered? you might be able to just add spacer to the ones you have. The reason I asked about the shocks is OME lists 2 different shocks. One is a "long travel" shock for lifts over 3".
Last edited by mikesignal; 03-25-2015 at 09:58 AM.
what coils and shocks came with the package you ordered? you might be able to just add spacer to the ones you have. The reason I asked about the shocks is OME lists 2 different shocks. One is a "long travel" shock for lifts over 3".
The more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to stick with 2.5". If I find that the rear needs more support, I can throw that leaf back in.
I was thinking I'd just need to get new coils to go from 2.5 to 3.5, but if I'd need to replace the shocks as well, I'd just assume keep the ones I have. They aren't cheap.
I've got the 2930 coils now and I'll be using a spacer to get them up around 2.5". To go taller, I'd be looking at the 2934 coils recommended for the V8 ZJ.
Any control arm advice? I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with stock upper, but I'm still considering adjustable, fixed, or stock lowers.
The more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to stick with 2.5". If I find that the rear needs more support, I can throw that leaf back in.
I was thinking I'd just need to get new coils to go from 2.5 to 3.5, but if I'd need to replace the shocks as well, I'd just assume keep the ones I have. They aren't cheap.
I've got the 2930 coils now and I'll be using a spacer to get them up around 2.5". To go taller, I'd be looking at the 2934 coils recommended for the V8 ZJ.
Any control arm advice? I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with stock upper, but I'm still considering adjustable, fixed, or stock lowers.
I don't know if the shocks you have will need to be changed if you go to 3.5". I would ask DPG.
I think JKS adjustable lowers are recommended alot in the forums. I have no experience with them yet. Still trying to figure out what lift and size and going to do. Leaning towards OME. Not sure if I want to go 2.5 or 3.5
someone else in this thread has the 2934 coils with the 2.5" rear leafs like you. He said no spacer was required to be level. I'm wondering if the 2934 coils is what is in the 3.5" kit from DPG, then add a spacer to level it out?
Last edited by mikesignal; 03-25-2015 at 10:28 AM.
The more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to stick with 2.5". If I find that the rear needs more support, I can throw that leaf back in.
I was thinking I'd just need to get new coils to go from 2.5 to 3.5, but if I'd need to replace the shocks as well, I'd just assume keep the ones I have. They aren't cheap.
here is a link to the ARB application guide. It lists the standard shocks as 60052 & 60053. For the extended length they are listed as 60052L & 60053L. The fine print says the "L" version is for lifts 3-5 inches. I'm not sure what the length differences are between the two. I could not find that information anywhere. I have no idea if the non "L" shock is what you have and if you can use them if you go higher.
I was very curious about the 1.5" lift as well (my leaf springs lay 100% flat with NOTHING loaded in my jeep right now) so I talked to a guy at Q-tec. he said the following:
John: I'm curious about item 76090.800
John: do you know if the what springs (light, medium, heavy duty) and coils come with that?
Q-tec: Sure, one moment please.
Q-tec: Rear I show is technically a CS033RB Medium Load 2.75"
John: hmmmm shoot, ok. I was hoping for the light duty ones to be honest. I don't want that much lift at the moment. I've heard some people talking about the mediums and they really do get about 3" of lift out of them
John: I dont have the cash to go large enough to have to do an SYE right now
Q-tec: Front shows:
Q-tec: 1.75" Lift on 84-01 Cherokee XJ Stock/Light Load (0-110lbs)
Q-tec: 1.50" Lift on 84-01 Cherokee XJ Heavy Load (110-200lbs)
Q-tec: Basically that it's setup for all 3, but lift will vary depending on actual load.
John: or is there something that I dont understand that makes it technically between a 1.5 and 2" like it says?
John: oh ok
John: I guess that makes sense
Q-tec: Yah a bit more than what is listed on the website lol. Sorry for the confusion, John.
John: and you guys dont carry, at least right now, one that has the light duty ones on the rear?
Q-tec: We don't. I am showing the light load rear springs have been discontinued:
Q-tec: Product No. Description Price OnHand -----Status-
Q-tec: 16090 5055 EMU LEAF SPRING-REAR CS034RB $125.99 0 C1/Canceled
John: Quadratec is the only site that I can find right now that actually has a kit like this, and OME stuff is hard for me to really find as an ala carte thing
John: ahh ok thanks. So I guess Ill just do some thinkin on whether I want that large of a lift on the rear. With that type of height I think Im more in the range of needing the SYE
Q-tec: Sounds good, John. I ran 5.5" lift and was still just running a t-case drop on my former XJ: It wasn't horrible, but it's really a case by case basis on this sort of thing. I do recommend an SYE/CV shaft above 3-4".
John: how far did you drop it?
John: the t case I mean
Q-tec: I believe it was this one: http://www.quadratec.com/products/76006_800.htm
Q-tec: Not sure what year your XJ is, though.
John: Mine's a 2000. I've seen a few of the t-case lowering kits around on your site that would work for me
So he was super helpful, and from what I gather from that is that when your jeep is completely empty, you can expect a 1.75-2" ish on the front and maybe 2.75" in the rear without anything being hauled. When it gets loaded down with a bunch of equipment (or bumpers, winch etc) it is more along the lines of the 1.5".
I say this because it definitely was NOT clear to me that this is how it would operate. If anyone is as dumb as I am. Although it makes complete sense once it was said in this way to me.
I'll be following this pretty closely in this thread to see what the final numbers are of SeaVee and the install. I'm looking to get this same kit in the next couple of weeks and hopefully installed over a couple weekends in my spare time.
here is a link to the ARB application guide. It lists the standard shocks as 60052 & 60053. For the extended length they are listed as 60052L & 60053L. The fine print says the "L" version is for lifts 3-5 inches. I'm not sure what the length differences are between the two. I could not find that information anywhere. I have no idea if the non "L" shock is what you have and if you can use them if you go higher.
I'm not going higher than 2.5". That's what I bought and that's what I'm sticking with. If I add bumpers and/or other heavy crap to either end of the Jeep, I'll be using the 2934 coils and/or the leafs I took out of the kit to get them down to 2.5".
I definitely have the non-L version of the shocks. I ordered my stuff from DPG. Dirk recommended the stock lower control arms for this lift, but I feel like if I'm going to spend $120+ for stock replacements, I might as well upgrade if I can get them from one of our vendors for $200.
03-23-2015 | 07:10 AM
Although it makes complete sense once it was said in this way to me. 