Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Steering for 4.5" lift?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-2016 | 09:13 PM
  #1  
Velcro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default Steering for 4.5" lift?

I had a similar thread about a year ago looking for steering for the same jeep with a 6.5" rough country lift, but I'm now installing notch flares and lowering it down to 4.5" on better parts (I've also got longarms now). The last thread ended with me deciding on Iron Rock Offroad steering that is beefy, but no alignment shop will touch it, as well as it being noisy and loose-feeling.

Really looking for whatever would be best for a daily driver that's used on the highway around 75-80. I'm considering Serious or JCR 1 ton, but I've been reading mixed reviews about inverted-T and tie rod roll. Is it really that bad? Crossover seems to be the overall best option, but I technically have that now and it's not that great. It's also expensive to do right.

I'd do a WJ swap, but it's not in my budget right now.

I'd like to stay UTK, unless it's necessary to go OTK. I'm capable of installing a track bar bracket, but I'd rather not shell out for a new track bar, when I have a nice one already.

Hoping someone with more knowledge will be able to help me out.
Old 04-09-2016 | 09:26 PM
  #2  
by921's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 204
Likes: 1
From: Virginia
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

i have the jcr over the knuckle and i like it. i am at 5.5 inch lift and have a little bit off bump steer but its not bad. If you lowerer it down to 4.5" i would go with under the knuckle to prevent bump steer.
Old 04-09-2016 | 10:17 PM
  #3  
Velcro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by by921
i have the jcr over the knuckle and i like it. i am at 5.5 inch lift and have a little bit off bump steer but its not bad. If you lowerer it down to 4.5" i would go with under the knuckle to prevent bump steer.
Did you relocate your trackbar? I thought OTK was supposed to have less bumpsteer due to the flatter, more parallel angles?
Old 04-10-2016 | 01:05 AM
  #4  
JeepMN's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 452
Likes: 3
From: Duluth, MN
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Look at offroadonly steering. I've been running it for a few years and have nothing but good things to say. It's a little more spendy but I love not having bumpsteer!
Old 04-10-2016 | 01:20 AM
  #5  
investinwaffles's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,097
Likes: 11
From: Tarpon Springs, FL / Denver, CO
Year: '98
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

The Currie steering kit is fantastic on-road, I have personally driven in a rig with one and it felt leaps and bounds better than my stock rebuilt system.

I have also ridden in a rig that had the Serious UTK kit and it also felt direct with minimal play. Not as great on-road as the Currie, but still really good.

The Offroadonly U-turn kit is also highly regarded, but I don't have any experience with it.
Old 04-10-2016 | 07:02 AM
  #6  
by921's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 204
Likes: 1
From: Virginia
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

Originally Posted by Velcro
Did you relocate your trackbar? I thought OTK was supposed to have less bumpsteer due to the flatter, more parallel angles?
No but I plan on building a front axle and will fix it then
Old 04-14-2016 | 09:04 PM
  #7  
Velcro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I thought the Currie kit would be nearly maxed out at 4.5". The Serious UTK is probably what I'm going for. Since you can make it OTK without too much extra work. I'm just concerned about "tie rod roll" causing a dead spot. I find that odd though since newer Ram HD trucks use a similar inverted-T steering setup and my suburban also has the tie rod end connected directly to the drag link instead of the knuckle. Neither have a serious dead spot.

I'm fairly sensitive to steering (I can't stand to drive a new car with electric power steering), so I definitely want to choose right this time. Any more info would be greatly appreciated.
Old 04-14-2016 | 09:34 PM
  #8  
krazynezz's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 433
Likes: 2
From: spokane valley, wa
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Velcro
Did you relocate your trackbar? I thought OTK was supposed to have less bumpsteer due to the flatter, more parallel angles?
There's no difference between OTK and UTK as far as bump steer is concerned. Bump steer is purely based on your drag link and trackbar being parallel and ideally the same length.
Old 04-14-2016 | 11:31 PM
  #9  
darknezz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 812
Likes: 1
From: Eugene, OR
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.7 Stroker I6
Default

I'm at 4.5", adj lca, adj sway bar links, zj tie rod, zj pitman, had a cheap adj trac bar but just went to heavy duty drop and heim joint and it helped a ton.

Cheap setup and all you need for upto 33 tires and 4.5"

Get everything lined up good and this setup has been great, biggest tires Ive had were 33's for a bit tho, handles great on and off road, I can take 45mph corners at 60 smoooth and tight.

Oh I also have a new steering box and frame brace and that helped a lot.

Last edited by darknezz; 04-14-2016 at 11:34 PM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BigC9164
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
7
07-19-2016 07:56 AM
teamarctic
Jeep Builds
1
06-19-2016 08:57 PM
JeepTrick68
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
7
04-07-2016 10:47 AM
jeepskater433
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
4
04-07-2016 07:24 AM
98Redbird
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
5
04-03-2016 04:51 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:26 AM.