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10-26-2013, 06:29 PM

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if the fixed tre on the draglink is shot, you need to get another draglink bar. same for the tierod bar. and i think i seen they are the same for cherokee six bangers and grand v8's. just the tre's are different. moog stuff that is.

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10-26-2013, 10:13 PM

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i think i seen they are the same for cherokee six bangers and grand v8's. just the tre's are different. moog stuff that is.

Uhhhh no, they are very much different. That's the entire point of this thread.

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10-27-2013, 02:52 AM

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Uhhhh no, they are very much different. That's the entire point of this thread.

He's referring to the drag link.

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10-27-2013, 03:04 AM

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I plan to use the ZJ tie rod parts.

For this to be a upgrade links must be from a v8 model you are aware of that correct ?

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10-27-2013, 07:02 AM

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For this to be a upgrade links must be from a v8 model you are aware of that correct ?

Yes, per liljoe71's summary:

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Qty.1 #DS1312 Tie Rod (aka the rod w/TRE
Qty.1 #DS1238 Drag Link
Qty.2 #ES3096L Short Tie Rod Ends(1 by pitman, 1 by outer driver side)
Qty.2 #ES2079S Adjustment Sleeves

The only thing I'm unsure about is the DS1238 drag link, as everyone seems to say that every XJ and ZJ uses the DS1238, but every dealer and Moog themselves specify the correct part for the 1984-1990 XJ as the DS1046.

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10-27-2013, 10:42 AM

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They're compatible. Moog actually has a different P/N for all of the XJs. See my posts a page or two back.

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10-27-2013, 07:10 PM

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my bad, the tre's are the same and draglink and tierods are different. i got mine for a 5.9 ds1310 draglink and ds1312 tierod and 2 ends es3096l. and 2 sleeves for them. i did notice for 4.0 the ends say left and right hand threads.

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10-27-2013, 09:19 PM

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Yeah the XJ tie rod is two tiny-*** TREs with a giant adjusting sleeve between them. The ZJ uses the same TRE at the pitman arm and DS steering knuckle.

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10-27-2013, 09:29 PM

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Yeah the XJ tie rod is two tiny-*** TREs with a giant adjusting sleeve between them. The ZJ uses the same TRE at the pitman arm and DS steering knuckle.

On 4.0s this is true the zj tie rods bent different tan the xj hence different number...

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07-20-2014, 09:10 AM

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Great upgrade. Is it the same parts for a 1999 XJ?
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07-20-2014, 10:41 AM

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Yes all LHD XJs

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08-02-2014, 01:46 PM

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any opinion on duralast (autozone) vs. moog (advanced)?

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08-03-2014, 01:28 AM

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any opinion on duralast (autozone) vs. moog (advanced)?

I have auto zone on my jeep and for half the price they are great!

I guess you can kinda see the upgrade in this pic..lol

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08-03-2014, 04:25 AM

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any opinion on duralast (autozone) vs. moog (advanced)?

MOOG is better, but not for the price difference. Plus, the Autozone/Duralast parts are lifetime guarantee, MOOG are not.

I rebuilt my 90 Front end with Duralast/Autozone parts and it has been fine with no problems.

The V8 ZJ Tie Rod is an awesome upgrade, it is solid and larger in diameter compared to the XJ's hollow tube Tie Rod. The XJ drag link is solid cast steel so no need to upgrade just get a new one, and it (ZJ Drag Link) is not compatible with the XJ anyway.