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Old 08-24-2016, 12:48 PM
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Well, I am lifted 4.5" so I think the extra threads will be OK


I am going to roll the dice and order that kit. Hopefully it works out (worst case I can always buy an XJ drag link separately and sell the ZJ one on craigslist). Thanks for the advice, as always!!

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I just priced out that kit from Autozone (duralast), Advance (moog), and Rock Auto. All of those options are closing on $200. At half the price, I am willing to take the risk...

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Originally Posted by investinwaffles
If I were trying to refresh the steering before winter hits, but before I move to 1-ton steering next spring/summer, would this fit the bill? I priced out Moog at ~$175 for a similar kit through Rock Auto.

Clamed 5 year warranty which means I can beat it all winter, upgrade to new steering, and warranty any failed parts...

93 98 Grand Cherokee Drag Links Tie Rods 5 2L Suspension Chassis Kit | eBay
About to buy this kit, way cheaper here than it is from Amazon.

Seems almost too cheap, like it's not real MOOG parts but the part #s listed are MOOG parts...may go ahead and order it anyway.

Did you end up getting this kit?
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Originally Posted by TeXJ
About to buy this kit, way cheaper here than it is from Amazon.

Seems almost too cheap, like it's not real MOOG parts but the part #s listed are MOOG parts...may go ahead and order it anyway.

Did you end up getting this kit?

i don't think that is moog parts.. aren't they mostly standardizing part numbers slowly? so different brands will be using the same part number?
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Originally Posted by abodyjoe
i don't think that is moog parts.. aren't they mostly standardizing part numbers slowly? so different brands will be using the same part number?
Yeah you're right.

I went to Oreily's and put in one of the part numbers and it came up with two different brands with the same part number...

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...kee&vi=1315993
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i think a manager at one of the parts stores told me about that...
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Left my Draglink alone the TREs seemed good there,

Anyone else need to put a washer on the Drivers Side TRE in order to get cotter pin engagement?

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Anyone else need to put a washer on the Drivers Side TRE in order to get cotter pin engagement?
Yes
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Originally Posted by TeXJ
About to buy this kit, way cheaper here than it is from Amazon.

Seems almost too cheap, like it's not real MOOG parts but the part #s listed are MOOG parts...may go ahead and order it anyway.

Did you end up getting this kit?
If it doesn't state Moog, its not Moog.
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From the seller on Ebay:
The brand is XCP


I've never heard of that brand...

Going through Rockauto and finding the cheapest parts, I got a total of $75.72, not sure if rockauto charges for shipping.

for the same parts just MOOG, it comes out to $194.60. However, I can substitute the MOOG sleeves with the cheaper ones, that brings the total down to $177.54

Chart below:
Rock auto
1 x Part # DS1310 Connecting drag link p/s $30.79 Moog $72.79
2 x Part # ES2079S Sleeves (9.54) $4.77 Moog $13.28 26.56 /17.06
1 x Part # ES3096L Tie rod at pitman arm $6.80 MOOG $23.73
1 x Part # DS1312 Connecting drag link d/s $21.79 Moog $47.79
1 x Part # ES3096L Tie rod on left side $6.80 MOOG $23.73
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$75.72 $194.60
Using the cheaper sleeves $177.54
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not sure if rockauto charges for shipping
Oh yes, yes they do. And how
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it's $20 for shipping. So going the cheaper route with the sleeves will still come out to ~$200...also just realized I probably ought to just buy a steering damper while im there...


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Originally Posted by TeXJ
About to buy this kit, way cheaper here than it is from Amazon.

Seems almost too cheap, like it's not real MOOG parts but the part #s listed are MOOG parts...may go ahead and order it anyway.

Did you end up getting this kit?
I did end up buying that kit, and it has been installed for about 1500 miles or so. Mostly on-road but a few wheeling/camping trips and has held up great - feels brand new still even after beating on it a little.

This is the exact listing;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200973429129?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true
Huge improvement over my worn out stock components, absolutely worth the $100 or whatever it cost me.

The only non-greasable tie rod is the one on the Drag Link on the steering knuckle side (also non-replaceable).

All the parts installed just fine, included new castle nuts, zerk fittings, cotter pins, and all required bolts.

I managed to get an "open box" steering stabilizer for $25 on Amazon (used a Daystar stabilizer because the shock bushings look much higher quality, I think they are poly bushings). Looks really good under there (I will post pics when I get home)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daystar-KU01...dX11CF&vxp=mtr



I basically took all the stock linkage off, measured it, replicated those measurements to the new steering kit, and bolted everything back up. Did a driveway alignment but I really really need to get a professional alignment done because I basically gave up after adjusting back/forth and not getting it perfect.

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Originally Posted by salad
Oh yes, yes they do. And how
Yeah, you really have to watch the shipping charges with those guys. If you're buying a lot of stuff and can have it all ship from the same warehouse you can still come out ahead of the game.

Also, small/light parts are not too bad. I ordered two Anco #6723 washer pumps from Rockauto to replace the ones in my XJ - the pumps were under $10 each and shipping was just $3.99 - so even with shipping it was cheaper than buying them locally.
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I bought the upgraded tie rod from Advance Auto. It isn't Moog but i found a 30% off coupon and i had a $5 reward. It ended up costing me right around $60. I haven't installed it yet but i probably will here soon. The parts are seem very heavy duty and I am excited to see the difference!
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I bought quicksteer from Rock auto and I don't recommend it purely for the boot quality. Grease everywhere already.


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